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re: Per capita, Louisiana is producing the most NFL skill/speed talent, and by a large margin

Posted on 5/4/21 at 7:21 am to
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 7:21 am to
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Non-homogenous DNA sharing.

Y'all should check into it.

Posted by JKChesterton
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 8:20 am to
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Nobody was arguing on the per capita dumbass. The debate was if it meant anything when it came to results on the field/recruiting. And the answer is no, the overall number is what matters.


No you inserted the article about LA HS talent doesn't imply what people think. Do you know what everyone here is thinking? NO. My theory is that you immediately turned this into a discussion about Alabama football relative to LSU and everyone else in the SEC. That was you projecting your narrative into what the article was talking about.

All the article was stating is what everyone knows, LA for a state with 4.6 million people has exceptional HS football. That was the point of the article.

Now what that means for LSU and everyone else in the SEC is a matter of opinion.

From an LSU fan perspective, it means that if LSU takes care of its business in terms of University ADIM, AD Admin, Coaching support etc, LSU should just based on in-state talent by a defacto top 10 program without having to rely on out of state talent. You fill in areas where LA HS football has not produced P5 D1 talent/NFL talent (QB the last 20 or so years) then you can be a NC winning team (all 3 of LSU's NC winning QB's were not from LA, Mauck was from Indiana, Flynn Texas and Joe was from Ohio).

However, I will say as someone who follows LA HS football, when the spread hit HS football 20 or so years ago, LA HS football coaches for the most part went with best athlete at QB and went Run spread type offense (There are different version of it). Texas was well ahead of the game with the modern Passing version of it, with RPO, etc.

That is beginning to change in LA. I will give lots of credit to 7-7 in LA under the leadership of guys like Rohan Davey, and others, which is really starting to show up in LA HS football. Howard from Lafayette-Saint Thomas Moore, is a National top 50 type recruit and LSU commit.

For 2023, LA may have 3 Rivals top 250 type QB's in state, Manning of course from New Orleans-Newman, but also Eli Holstein of Zachary LA (East Baton Rouge Parish), offers from LSU, Texas AM, Kentucky, Auburn and Miss State, and another guy to watch is Rickie Collins of Baton Rouge Woodlawn.

Posted by Eat Your Crow
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 8:33 am to
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Then why has Alabama beat them NINE out of the last TEN meetings?

Alabama gets up for LSU more than any other game on their schedule, MOST years.

No, I'm not saying we are your "rivals" or your "SuperBowl." But yeah, LSU is the only school in the SEC on Bama's annual schedule with comparable athletes and talent, and Saban knows it.

The other reason? Bama is LSU's daddy right now, and for most of history. We should have won the games in 2012 and 2014, but we blew them. Just something about not being able to get over the hump, especially under Miles.
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 8:43 am
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 8:54 am to
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superior talent

the frick?

The 90s was arguably the worst decade in our program's history


Your ability to out-retard yourself on a daily basis never ceases to entertain us.
Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
Florida
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 9:15 am to
Actually TONGA is producing the most talent in the NFL per capita ...

Star Lotulelei and Netane Muti are both from Tonga which has a population of approx 110,000.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 9:23 am to
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Could have something to do with bama winning the National Championship 5 times in the last 10 years and typically recruits a top 1 or 2 class annually.
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 9:25 am to
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Actually TONGA is producing the most talent in the NFL per capita

Star Lotulelei and Netane Muti

That's actually pretty interesting, but as linemen they wouldn't be included in this particular stat, since it only considers WRs, DBs, and RBs (speed and skill positions).
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 9:58 am to
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ReauxlTide222


Dude your little man syndrome is pathetic. You are asking questions you would know the answer to the most. Just be happy your program backed their way into the best coach of all time, again.
Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
Florida
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:27 am to
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but as linemen they wouldn't be included in this particular stat, since it only considers WRs, DBs, and RBs (speed and skill positions).


But I’m sure they’re faster and more skilled than me, that was my benchmark.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22471 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:13 am to
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No you inserted the article about LA HS talent doesn't imply what people think. Do you know what everyone here is thinking? NO. My theory is that you immediately turned this into a discussion about Alabama football relative to LSU and everyone else in the SEC. That was you projecting your narrative into what the article was talking about.

All the article was stating is what everyone knows, LA for a state with 4.6 million people has exceptional HS football. That was the point of the article.

Now what that means for LSU and everyone else in the SEC is a matter of opinion.

From an LSU fan perspective, it means that if LSU takes care of its business in terms of University ADIM, AD Admin, Coaching support etc, LSU should just based on in-state talent by a defacto top 10 program without having to rely on out of state talent. You fill in areas where LA HS football has not produced P5 D1 talent/NFL talent (QB the last 20 or so years) then you can be a NC winning team (all 3 of LSU's NC winning QB's were not from LA, Mauck was from Indiana, Flynn Texas and Joe was from Ohio).

However, I will say as someone who follows LA HS football, when the spread hit HS football 20 or so years ago, LA HS football coaches for the most part went with best athlete at QB and went Run spread type offense (There are different version of it). Texas was well ahead of the game with the modern Passing version of it, with RPO, etc.

That is beginning to change in LA. I will give lots of credit to 7-7 in LA under the leadership of guys like Rohan Davey, and others, which is really starting to show up in LA HS football. Howard from Lafayette-Saint Thomas Moore, is a National top 50 type recruit and LSU commit.

For 2023, LA may have 3 Rivals top 250 type QB's in state, Manning of course from New Orleans-Newman, but also Eli Holstein of Zachary LA (East Baton Rouge Parish), offers from LSU, Texas AM, Kentucky, Auburn and Miss State, and another guy to watch is Rickie Collins of Baton Rouge Woodlawn.



Your reading comp is so bad I'm not even sure if it's actually even me you think you are replying too.

Because absolutely not a damn thing you said applies to anything I said.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:14 am to
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The 90s was arguably the worst decade in our program's history



That is news to me.

Can you tell me how the 80s were better?
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 11:15 am
Posted by reauxl tigers
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:15 am to
Build that wall
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:46 am to
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Your reading comp is so bad I'm not even sure if it's actually even me you think you are replying too.

Because absolutely not a damn thing you said applies to anything I said.


That is the problem, whatever you said, it had absolutely nothing to do with the Original Post which in fact was "PER CAPITA, LOUISIANA IS PRODUCING THE MOST NFL SKILL/SPEED TALENT, AND BY A LARGE MARGIN"

So please tell me how any your post was related to the OP.

Your first comment was per capita does not mean...., as it is LA and nobody wants to live there. Ok you don't want to live in LA, I don't or would not live in AL (throw in MS as well). Live and let live, no harm no foul, but again not relevant to the OP.

Your 2nd one was about Ole Miss relative to Alabama. Hmm, so there is you projecting Alabama football relative to LSU and other SEC teams into an article about LA HS football.

Your 3rd post was about Alabama having more highly rated prospects and LSU having so much talent to benefit from not being true. All of those statements you made are 100% false. As I noted, 1 player difference based on 2020 NFL rosters and as I also indicated per USA CENSUS, Alabama has 350,000 more people. So again, all in line with the context of the article that per Capita, LA....... (I think the all caps above already made the point)

Your 4th post was in response to another Alabama poster (Sensible one) regarding per capita not being a valid statistical measurement. Your response was well it doesn't mean what some people want it me.

My interpretation is that other peoples interpretation doesn't equate to yours therefore it doesn't mean what some people thin it does. Which is precisely what I ws referring to in the post you quoted. Do you know what everyone is thinking? and who the Hell or you to think what you think is the correct way to think about it? doesn't mean what you want it to mean

5th post, "umm you just proved what I was saying" No, I provided evidence that does not support what you are saying. If you have evidence that does not support what I am saying, cite it!!!

6th post was the results on the field and of course this goes back to projecting Alabama football into an article about again, LA HS football talent.

Which as I noted, this is what you wanted to turn the article into. About Alabama football. Yes, I am well aware that Bryant won tons of SEC Titles and NC in his 25 year tenure and was 16-4 vs. LSU. That is not relevant to the article. I clearly pointed out that if LSU University Admin, AD Admin and Coaching is in line, there is enough talent for LSU to have a top 10 program every year. To get to NC level, LSU has had to complement its roster with OOS talent as I noted with respect to the QB position.


So again my reading of all your posts a 2nd time does not change my personal view that nothing you wrote is relevant to the OP about LA HS talent.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 12:16 pm to
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So again my reading of all your posts a 2nd time does not change my personal view that nothing you wrote is relevant to the OP about LA HS talent.


He made it that obvious from his first post.
Posted by forestwhitackersgood
Dallas
Member since Jun 2019
3062 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 12:32 pm to
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Because Rich Rod told your school "no" at the same time the best college coach in America gave up on the NFL



You mean Rita overrode his decision... Thank GOD... Worked out well for us...
Posted by 19
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Member since Nov 2007
33145 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 12:33 pm to
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Non-homogeous DNA sharing...




I actually intended that to be light-hearted (I know, right?) and you read it perfectly.

Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 12:38 pm to
Well yeah, they have to be faster than a speeding bullet. Literally
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4011 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 12:51 pm to
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He made it that obvious from his first post.


Of course he did, I just like calling out idiotic posts with emphasis. He had to throw in a few choice words at me which only reinforces the ole story about two lawyers on opposing sides. The ones with the Facts and Law pounds the facts and the Law (that would be ME!). The one with neither the facts or the law pounds the table and screams profanity, that would be Him.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22471 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:03 pm to
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That is the problem, whatever you said, it had absolutely nothing to do with the Original Post which in fact was "PER CAPITA, LOUISIANA IS PRODUCING THE MOST NFL SKILL/SPEED TALENT, AND BY A LARGE MARGIN"

So please tell me how any your post was related to the OP.

Your first comment was per capita does not mean...., as it is LA and nobody wants to live there. Ok you don't want to live in LA, I don't or would not live in AL (throw in MS as well). Live and let live, no harm no foul, but again not relevant to the OP.

Your 2nd one was about Ole Miss relative to Alabama. Hmm, so there is you projecting Alabama football relative to LSU and other SEC teams into an article about LA HS football.

Your 3rd post was about Alabama having more highly rated prospects and LSU having so much talent to benefit from not being true. All of those statements you made are 100% false. As I noted, 1 player difference based on 2020 NFL rosters and as I also indicated per USA CENSUS, Alabama has 350,000 more people. So again, all in line with the context of the article that per Capita, LA....... (I think the all caps above already made the point)

Your 4th post was in response to another Alabama poster (Sensible one) regarding per capita not being a valid statistical measurement. Your response was well it doesn't mean what some people want it me.

My interpretation is that other peoples interpretation doesn't equate to yours therefore it doesn't mean what some people thin it does. Which is precisely what I ws referring to in the post you quoted. Do you know what everyone is thinking? and who the Hell or you to think what you think is the correct way to think about it? doesn't mean what you want it to mean

5th post, "umm you just proved what I was saying" No, I provided evidence that does not support what you are saying. If you have evidence that does not support what I am saying, cite it!!!

6th post was the results on the field and of course this goes back to projecting Alabama football into an article about again, LA HS football talent.

Which as I noted, this is what you wanted to turn the article into. About Alabama football. Yes, I am well aware that Bryant won tons of SEC Titles and NC in his 25 year tenure and was 16-4 vs. LSU. That is not relevant to the article. I clearly pointed out that if LSU University Admin, AD Admin and Coaching is in line, there is enough talent for LSU to have a top 10 program every year. To get to NC level, LSU has had to complement its roster with OOS talent as I noted with respect to the QB position.


So again my reading of all your posts a 2nd time does not change my personal view that nothing you wrote is relevant to the OP about LA HS talent.


frick you are stupid.

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Your first comment was per capita does not mean...., as it is LA and nobody wants to live there. Ok you don't want to live in LA, I don't or would not live in AL (throw in MS as well). Live and let live, no harm no foul, but again not relevant to the OP.


You see what I quoted in my 1st post? That is who and what I was responding too. Not the OP. Someone asked why LSU has lost 9 out of the past 10 to Alabama. I gave a reason why. It didn't have shite to do with the OP directly, but you can't seem to grasp that.

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Your 3rd post was about Alabama having more highly rated prospects and LSU having so much talent to benefit from not being true. All of those statements you made are 100% false. As I noted, 1 player difference based on 2020 NFL rosters and as I also indicated per USA CENSUS, Alabama has 350,000 more people. So again, all in line with the context of the article that per Capita, LA....... (I think the all caps above already made the point)


And this is why you are a dumbass. I was explaining why per capita doesn't mean much, NOT that the numbers were wrong.

Further, I used Alabama as the example because NOBODY ever thinks of Alabama as a hot recruiting bed state. Yet in overall numbers Alabama has more. And yes I know it was very little difference, THAT WAS THE ENTIRE frickING POINT.


My 4th post had to try and clarify even further.

And at no point did what I post have to do with Alabama football, other than responding to someone about why Alabama beat LSU 9 out of 10 times.

Aside from the poke about nobody wanting to live in Louisiana, I was actually sticking up for LSU, but you dumb fricks are so stuck on anything Alabama, that all you ever see is red.

fricking dumbass LSU fans. You guys are literally the worst fanbase I have ever come across. Auburn and Tennessee are our actual rivals, but you guys are the biggest group of frickheads in the country.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26259 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:05 pm to
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That is news to me.

Can you tell me how the 80s were better?

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