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re: People stop putting so much stock in signing day....

Posted on 2/7/13 at 7:43 am to
Posted by Gizmeaux
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Posted on 2/7/13 at 7:43 am to
Posted by boddagetta
Moulton
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Posted on 2/7/13 at 7:49 am to
Easy there, Big Fella
Posted by Smoke Ring
Scenic Highway Crackhouse
Member since Dec 2010
4339 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 7:54 am to
Johnny was a Parade All-American and TX HS FB Player of the Year.

His 3-Star ranking is an indictment of the services.
Posted by elit4ce05
Member since Jun 2011
3752 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 7:56 am to
Let's see... #1 recruiting class 5 of last 6 years....BCSNC 3 of last 4 years.....hmmmm...afraid I have to disagree.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
31101 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 8:11 am to
But "competing with anyone on a given day" won't win a National Championship!

"There is truth to recruiting but they are not the entire picture. IMHO as long as you are in the top 15-20 you have the talent to compete with anyone on a given day."
This post was edited on 2/7/13 at 8:12 am
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 2/7/13 at 8:16 am to
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I present russel Shepard vs Johnny manziel...5 star mister all world whose the same size as Russell Wilson yet couldn't qb at lsu vs mister 3 star DUI pimple face......how'd that one work out for us lsu fans....these guys are young and will develop...it's the coaching staffs that matter


It all starts with what happened yesterday. LSU and Alabama kept their tradition of solid foundations going. Ole Miss, I think, caught lightening in a bottle (besides after about 6-8 players their class becomes real average). You will see that the years of great classes will keep Bama and LSU ahead of everyone else in the SECw for the long haul.

No that doesn't mean that aTm won't finsh 2nd next year cause they very well might. I think LSU and Bama continued what they need to do to be the top 2 teams in the west for a long period of time.....however some teams may catch them for a year or so, but LSU and Bama will always be there at least from where I sit.
Posted by ThaKaptin
The Sultan of Swag
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Posted on 2/7/13 at 9:01 am to
I dont think this thread went quite the way the OP meant for it to.
Posted by Politiceaux
Member since Feb 2009
17667 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 9:03 am to
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ThaBigFella
Exception =/= Rule
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 9:12 am to
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8 of the last 11 years at least one team with a top 5 recruiting class played in the BCS title game.

Nah...ill keep putting stock into it.



Exactly. The 5 star busts and the 3 star superstars are more of the exception rather than the rule which losers cite to make them feel better about recruiting failures. Georgia was a good example this recruiting season. We missed on most of our high-profile in-state recruits. I recognize it and freely admit it. Losing our recruiting coordinator, Rodney Garner, and Grantham's questionable status as our DC, most likely figured greatly into our mediocre recruiting for 2013. BTW, Grantham is supposedly interviewing for the Philadelphia Eagles DC job today.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/7/13 at 9:24 am to
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...at least from where I sit.


"Frog City Baby!!!"











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Posted by Blaquebuete
Kentucky
Member since Sep 2011
818 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 9:41 am to
Alabama's 2009, '10, '11 classes say shut the frick up and dust my trophies!
Posted by Wolfpacleader
Member since Jun 2011
1119 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 9:41 am to
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If LSU had signed the #1 class in America yesterday would you have started this thread?

We signed a really great class, I don't think that would have mattered.
Posted by footballtimeintn
Nashville
Member since Feb 2013
732 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 9:41 am to
They key to each signing class is not who signs, its who acually makes it into school and stays in school. At Tennessee we have seen our fair share of recruting classes that turned out to be busts.
Posted by CHSgc
Charleston, SC
Member since Oct 2012
1658 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 9:50 am to
You can either Richt/Chizik/Miles it and put incredible talent on the field and hope to win that way or you can Spurrier/Petrino it and coach up the 3*'s. Not signing a top 15 class doesn't consign you to mediocrity, but you damn well better have a top flight coach if you want to stay relevant.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
27936 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 10:02 am to
The ONLY reason Manziel was ranked as a 3* is his measurables. The kid broke every high school record for offense, and would have been HIGHLY recruited if a little bit bigger

Also, he played at Tivy, where there just aren't too many recruiters out there, as most tend to recruit the more populous areas of the state.
Posted by MonroeTiger80
Member since Dec 2004
523 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 10:05 am to
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There are plenty of 5 star busts and 2 star superstars.


Future NFL hall of famer Patrick Willis says hi. 2/3-star coming out of high school in TN and couldn't get Phat Phil to even give him a sideways glance.

Ole Miss got lucky as hell with that pickup
This post was edited on 2/7/13 at 10:07 am
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150304 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 10:09 am to
Just doesnt make sense how bama, USC, ohio state win with 5 stars and arizona state, Colorado, and baylor lose with 3 stars if getting 5 stars isnt important
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 10:13 am to
I will never understand why Manziel was a three star. He was the NATIONAL HS player of the year according to several and set a ton of records in the state where HS football is bigger than anywhere else. He had nearly 80 total TDs his senior year.

People will say its because of his size, but every year there are multiple short running QBs who receive 4-star ratings.
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
30288 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 10:14 am to
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"Frog City Baby!!!"


I actually sit in my office in BR right now if you want to get technical.
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