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People complaining about playoff are missing the point
Posted on 11/20/19 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 11/20/19 at 3:32 pm
The whole point of expanding from 2 to 4 teams was to reduce the chance of leaving out an extremely worthy 3rd place team. This year is a perfect example. If we still had the BCS system, it would be Ohio St. vs. LSU with Clemson being left out which would cause an uproar given that they are the defending national champs. Expanding to 4 teams gets Clemson in. It is very unlikely to have 4 equally deserving teams.
The 4th team in this year is just lucky to have a spot. No one outside of the top 3 this year really "deserve" to have a spot at this point in the season. A lot could still change, but I think the playoff system is working as intended.
The only thing I would change is a conference championship requirement. Cut out all the BS. If you don't win your conference, why should you be given a chance to win the whole thing?
The 4th team in this year is just lucky to have a spot. No one outside of the top 3 this year really "deserve" to have a spot at this point in the season. A lot could still change, but I think the playoff system is working as intended.
The only thing I would change is a conference championship requirement. Cut out all the BS. If you don't win your conference, why should you be given a chance to win the whole thing?
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 3:42 pm to Diesel88
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The only thing I would change is a conference championship requirement. Cut out all the BS. If you don't win your conference, why should you be given a chance to win the whole thing?
I think it serves a purpose to have that. Remember you have 5 P5s and at least one is left out anyways. Don't think about this year but imagine this scenario: Pac 12 winner is a 10-3 Washinton, Big 12 winner is a 9-4 Texas. ACC winner is 10-3 FSU. SEC winner is a 13-0 Georgia. Florida finishes 11-1 with a 4 point L to UGA, they thump everyone else FSU included. Did you really get the 4 best teams in if you leave UF behind?
Posted on 11/20/19 at 3:45 pm to Diesel88
It allows the king of football (Alabama) to make it in every year like they so deserve
Its a perfect system
Its a perfect system
Posted on 11/20/19 at 3:47 pm to Diesel88
I just want to see the two best teams in the NC game. If they happen to be in the same conference, so be it.
If you don't like this, then you really just want to see team x vs team y. Quit pretending then that you want to see the two best teams. That's NOT a national championship game. Go watch the NFL or better yet, watch the NCAA Basketball Tournament.
If you don't like this, then you really just want to see team x vs team y. Quit pretending then that you want to see the two best teams. That's NOT a national championship game. Go watch the NFL or better yet, watch the NCAA Basketball Tournament.
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 11/20/19 at 3:49 pm to r2d2
Florida already lost to Georgia in that scenario. Why should they get a second shot for all the marbles which if they win, completely negates the first game between the two? They shouldn't.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 4:00 pm to Diesel88
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Florida already lost to Georgia in that scenario. Why should they get a second shot for all the marbles which if they win, completely negates the first game between the two? They shouldn't.
Fair point. Only reason I would give is all the other teams haven't played UGA so you are punishing UF for their schedule.
What I do believe strongly is that a Conference Championship game should only help you improve your case never diminish it, especially when compared to non-conference champions. This year for instance if UGA is ahead of Bama an L in the SECCG should not propel Bama ahead of them. That's a game Bama didn't even make, it's ridiculous to have that result benefit them.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 4:03 pm to r2d2
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This year for instance if UGA is ahead of Bama an L in the SECCG should not propel Bama ahead of them. That's a game Bama didn't even make, it's ridiculous to have that result benefit them.
An L in the SECCG should remove them from any discussion because they didn't win their conference.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 4:07 pm to Diesel88
Exactly correct. It’s to make sure 2004 doesn’t happen again.
6 or 8 games might be fun but the end of the regular season would have to be involved the first round somehow. CFB will never be a 2 semester sport and ratings may suffer around Christmas.
6 or 8 games might be fun but the end of the regular season would have to be involved the first round somehow. CFB will never be a 2 semester sport and ratings may suffer around Christmas.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 4:09 pm to Diesel88
Nobody cares. Football is stupid. A dying sport that only a handful of teams can only hope to actually win anything.
Now hoops...that’s poetry my friend.
Now hoops...that’s poetry my friend.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 4:11 pm to JesusQuintana
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Football is stupid
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Missouri Fan
Carry on
Posted on 11/20/19 at 4:15 pm to biclops
Exactly.
Why should anyone else care? The deck is completely stacked. It’s the only major sport where 90% of the teams competing have absolutely no chance to win. I love football. I love CFB, but the structure is horrendous. The playoff is especially boring. Same handful of teams every single year.
Why should anyone else care? The deck is completely stacked. It’s the only major sport where 90% of the teams competing have absolutely no chance to win. I love football. I love CFB, but the structure is horrendous. The playoff is especially boring. Same handful of teams every single year.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 4:17 pm to JesusQuintana
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Exactly.
Why should anyone else care? The deck is completely stacked. It’s the only major sport where 90% of the teams competing have absolutely no chance to win. I love football. I love CFB, but the structure is horrendous. The playoff is especially boring. Same handful of teams every single year.
In your opinion, was it better under the BCS? What about the old bowl system?
Posted on 11/20/19 at 4:20 pm to biclops
I’m half joking here, but yes I do believe it was better. The playoff has devalued the bowls which used to mean more. A school that wasn’t going to win a NC could still get a New Years Day bowl and if they won that it was a big deal. Now it’s not, or not nearly as much anyway. The hierarchy didn’t change, really hasn’t changed, and likely never will but I’ve never been a fan of the playoffs.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 4:25 pm to Diesel88
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An L in the SECCG should remove them from any discussion because they didn't win their conference.
I'm fine with that but my point was mostly Alabama should not benefit from that extra loss UGA would absorb in a game Bama failed to qualify for. Without it UGA was ahead.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 4:27 pm to JesusQuintana
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I’m half joking here, but yes I do believe it was better. The playoff has devalued the bowls which used to mean more. A school that wasn’t going to win a NC could still get a New Years Day bowl and if they won that it was a big deal. Now it’s not, or not nearly as much anyway. The hierarchy didn’t change, really hasn’t changed, and likely never will but I’ve never been a fan of the playoffs.
I think the pre-BCS bowl system was best (I think it was called the Bowl Coalition or some such), but I would have preferred to use the BCS rankings to determine the 1v2 matchup.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 4:29 pm to Diesel88
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The whole point of expanding from 2 to 4 teams was to reduce the chance of leaving out an extremely worthy 3rd place team. This year is a perfect example. If we still had the BCS system, it would be Ohio St. vs. LSU with Clemson being left out which would cause an uproar given that they are the defending national champs. Expanding to 4 teams gets Clemson in. It is very unlikely to have 4 equally deserving teams.
The 4th team in this year is just lucky to have a spot. No one outside of the top 3 this year really "deserve" to have a spot at this point in the season. A lot could still change, but I think the playoff system is working as intended.
The only thing I would change is a conference championship requirement. Cut out all the BS. If you don't win your conference, why should you be given a chance to win the whole thing?
ESPN and the media will stoke the flame of whatever gives them the most clicks, and the most opportunities to make $. They don't care what's best for the sport. Stretching CFB far too thin may eventually kill it, then those parties that ruined it will move on to something else when all we the fans will be left with are rotting stadiums and memories.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 4:58 pm to r2d2
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I'm fine with that but my point was mostly Alabama should not benefit from that extra loss UGA would absorb in a game Bama failed to qualify for. Without it UGA was ahead.
Alabama also wouldn't benefit because they didn't win their conference.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 5:02 pm to Diesel88
I think in any situation when u attain an upgrade and it isn’t upgraded to the fullest there will always be complaints. Yeah adding a 3-4 is great but IMO in most cases #4 is a roll of the dice and 5-8 could be a #4 in others eyes. That’s the complaint # 9- the rest can ride out..
Posted on 11/20/19 at 5:16 pm to Diesel88
100% agree.
System is not designed to find the four best teams.
System is designed to find the two best teams with a margin of error of 100%.
System is not designed to find the four best teams.
System is designed to find the two best teams with a margin of error of 100%.
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