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STLhog
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re: Pat Casey not likely to be hired by LSU
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I don’t think an Arkansas fan should be pointing fingers at a coach overusing a pitcher TBH


18 year old Freshman starter that can pitch complete games, projected top 5 pick with 4 complete pitches is a little different than a 24 year old semi journeyman that has already had TJ and is basically pitching like Rookie of the Year this year.

I don't think people remember how good Abel was.

That was just the start of Abel's career. This is likely the pinnacle for Kopps. He and DvH have basically said as much.
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VolMarine1371
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re: Pat Casey not likely to be hired by LSU
He’s not interested. He is staying in Knoxville!!


SidewalkTiger
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He’s not interested. He is staying in Knoxville!!






Maybe if LSU doesn't make an offer


armytide373
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Maybe if LSU doesn't make an offer

IDK, but I'm actually really hoping Voltello isn't coaching UTk next season. It would do more for the board in my humble opinion than hurt it.


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rockiee
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re: Pat Casey not likely to be hired by LSU
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I don’t think an Arkansas fan should be pointing fingers at a coach overusing a pitcher TBH


Genuinely asking, has DVH ruined or messed up any other pitcher's arm? I have no idea.


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Scoob
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Sounds like the hire was about to be made. News got out. And Lsu pulled a Tenn based on fan base reaction. I hope it’s the board or boosters ruining this because Woodward is usually so surgical with his hires.



Based on what?

There's no reason to make a hire right now, LSU is still playing as are the vast majority of the coaches they'd be interested in.

I freely admit I'm not in the loop with this, but I thought the names people were saying were:
O'Sullivan (out), Louisville coach (out), East Carolina coach (in), Vitello (in), and Bianco (in)?

And that we didn't want Bianco, and Vitello's resume was a little short based on the money it would take to get him?
So, that leaves the East Carolina guy, right? Is there a reason we're ignoring the Louisville guy?

As for us still being in the tourney, Paul's already retiring. It shouldn't offend anyone if the next guy is announced.


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VolMarine1371
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re: Pat Casey not likely to be hired by LSU
Danny White and UT will match whatever is offered.


Scoob
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Danny White and UT will match whatever is offered.

I'm sure they would, and I'm sure LSU would eventually go high enough to take him if they absolutely wanted.

Problem is, that might get to close to $3 mil- is Vitello really that good, or is this just one of those years?


lsufball19
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18 year old Freshman starter that can pitch complete games, projected top 5 pick with 4 complete pitches

pretty sure Abel is still projected to be drafted in the first couple of rounds this year. So are we blaming a rising sophomore (at the time) getting TJ on his college coach? That shite didn't happen over a few days in Omaha
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24 year old semi journeyman that has already had TJ

so was this DVH's fault? Just want to make sure we're being consistent on where we point the fingers when kids get hurt

Abel did that at the CWS fwiw. He wasn't pitching like that all season. He averaged 64 pitches thrown per outing. He threw 100+ pitches just four times the entire 2018 season (and only once prior to May). A few outings in Omaha didn't cause an injury requiring TJ. He also didn't do that in 4 days in Omaha. He threw 95 pitches on 6/23, then threw 23 pitches on 06/27 (basically a bullpen session), and then threw 129 on 06/28, 5 days after his previous start. So what we're really talking about is two starts on 5 days rest with a bullpe session in between. Kopps just threw almost 200 pitches in few days last weekend, has a history of TJ, and DVH has pitched him into the dirt all season long. Like I said, let's not throw stones in glass houses. Not to mention, this is a far cry from how much pitchers threw regularly not too terribly long ago before coaches became more aware of overusage. But the biggest cause for the rise in TJ at such an early age is what these kids are doing before they ever get to college. Needing TJ doesn't happen because of a few days of pitching. It is caused by years of stress to the elbow.
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SidewalkTiger
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re: Pat Casey not likely to be hired by LSU
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Danny White and UT will match whatever is offered.


LSU can offer some things UTk can't.

It will be a strong arse offer and Vitello will be in Baton Rouge faster than you can say "Omaha."


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lsufball19
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LSU can offer some things UTk can't.

yep


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TigerLunatik
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faster than you can say "Omaha."



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XWing atAliciousness
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You don’t really deserve anyone better, to be honest

One of the most successful programs in the sports history that is undoubtedly at least one of the top 3 programs of all time?

fricking rich coming from an Aggie baseball fan. I’m sure most coaches were pining to drop everything to go coach in a park packed with fans that blow bubbles and have witnessed zero championship history of any kind whatsoever


STLhog
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re: Pat Casey not likely to be hired by LSU
yea yea yea

Pedo tho.
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ColoradoAg
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re: Pat Casey not likely to be hired by LSU
You have a great baseball program - fans are entitled brats though


XWing atAliciousness
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re: Pat Casey not likely to be hired by LSU
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You have a great baseball program - fans are entitled brats though

Again - absolutely rich coming from the Aggie fan base. A fan base that tries to justify themselves as one of the national powers in sports that belongs at the adult table, yet haven’t finished a regular season in the top 4 in anything since WWII


Adam4848
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re: Pat Casey not likely to be hired by LSU
You and farmer haven’t really had a good batting average on this coaching search this week


Farmer1906
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re: Pat Casey not likely to be hired by LSU
Batting 1.000 thanks.


SidewalkTiger
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yet haven’t finished a regular season in the top 4 in anything since WWII


They finally did in football.



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VFL1800FPD
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re: Pat Casey not likely to be hired by LSU
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LSU can offer some things UTk can't.


UT provides Tony the opportunity to take a mediocre baseball program with a huge fanbase starving for success to an elite level. At UT he basically gets a blank check to design a program from scratch as he sees fit. LSU can offer plenty without a doubt, but as a well-established program, they cannot offer that opportunity.



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