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Posted on 5/5/19 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 5/5/19 at 3:30 pm
IMO if a guy is hit while he has his hand stretched out in what is either a check swing or an actual swing, it should not be considered a HBP. I just feel like if the part of the guys body that gets hit is out of the batter’s box it’s wrong to punish a pitcher for it.
What do y’all think?
What do y’all think?
Posted on 5/5/19 at 3:33 pm to Terrific Tales
I think if the ball hits you, and the bat doesn’t break the plane, you should take your base. If it’s a swing it’s not a HBP. It’s a strike, so it doesn’t punish the pitcher...
Posted on 5/5/19 at 3:37 pm to TOFTR
Sure. I will now start instructing all of my players to hold their hands out over the plate just as far as it isn’t across the plate and move up and down and across to get hit by the pitch. You really don’t see a problem with that? It should be treated just like leaning in IMO
Posted on 5/5/19 at 3:38 pm to Terrific Tales
Quit bitching and score some runs maybe
That would be treated as leaning as the player would be making no attempt to avoid the ball
That would be treated as leaning as the player would be making no attempt to avoid the ball
This post was edited on 5/5/19 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 5/5/19 at 3:39 pm to TOFTR
lol I’m asking about a rule. This thread has nothing to do with the squeeze that just happened to Marceaux or the errors we are making.
Posted on 5/5/19 at 3:39 pm to Terrific Tales
Marceaux pitched Olenik inside 4 straight pitches. Olenik didn't swing when he got hit...it sure looked painful.
Posted on 5/5/19 at 3:40 pm to TOFTR
You don’t have to make and attempt to avoid the ball anymore. Not a rule...
Posted on 5/5/19 at 3:40 pm to Terrific Tales
You should maybe read the rule
Posted on 5/5/19 at 3:41 pm to REBSontheRISE
My point exactly. It wasn’t a swing but his hands were still outstretched and in a place where a pitcher should be able to pitch a ball without having to worry about hitting someone.
Posted on 5/5/19 at 3:42 pm to TOFTR
They changed the rule buddy. It’s now just that you can’t lean into it. You DONT have to make an effort to get out of the way this year
This post was edited on 5/5/19 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 5/5/19 at 3:47 pm to Terrific Tales
The amendment to 8.2d.1:
“To penalize the batter with a strike and not award first base if, in the judgement of the umpire, the batter makes an intentional movement to be hit by a pitch, regardless of where the pitch is located.
Rationale
To provide guidance in enforcing the hit by pitch rule and to deter batters from attempting to be hit by the pitch. “Freezing” by a batter is not considered making an intentional movement. A batter who freezes inside the batter’s box and who is hit by a pitch shall be awarded first base.”
Moving your hands into the pitch would be an intentional move in all likelihood. If you didn’t swing and didn’t make a move into the pitch, and you get hit in the hands, you get a base. Getting hit in the hands really fricking hurts and is rather dangerous. Suggesting you could instruct your players to put themselves in a position where they can easily break fingers or hands is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard. A player with a broken hand is damn near worthless in baseball
“To penalize the batter with a strike and not award first base if, in the judgement of the umpire, the batter makes an intentional movement to be hit by a pitch, regardless of where the pitch is located.
Rationale
To provide guidance in enforcing the hit by pitch rule and to deter batters from attempting to be hit by the pitch. “Freezing” by a batter is not considered making an intentional movement. A batter who freezes inside the batter’s box and who is hit by a pitch shall be awarded first base.”
Moving your hands into the pitch would be an intentional move in all likelihood. If you didn’t swing and didn’t make a move into the pitch, and you get hit in the hands, you get a base. Getting hit in the hands really fricking hurts and is rather dangerous. Suggesting you could instruct your players to put themselves in a position where they can easily break fingers or hands is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard. A player with a broken hand is damn near worthless in baseball
Posted on 5/5/19 at 3:49 pm to TOFTR
That’s my point. There is a difference between leaning into a pitch as it comes to you/remaining stationary and not getting out of the way.
The first is illegal the second is not. What aren’t you getting?
The first is illegal the second is not. What aren’t you getting?
Posted on 5/5/19 at 3:50 pm to TOFTR
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Moving your hands into the pitch would be an intentional move
Not if they made it look like a bunt
Posted on 5/5/19 at 3:52 pm to Terrific Tales
Why would you intentionally try to get hit in one of the main parts of the body where you can’t play through injury?
Posted on 5/5/19 at 3:53 pm to TOFTR
Obviously You wouldnt. Doesn’t mean it’s fair to penalize a pitcher for pitching a ball that isn’t inside the batters box.
Posted on 5/5/19 at 3:53 pm to Terrific Tales
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IMO if a guy is hit while he has his hand stretched out in what is either a check swing or an actual swing, it should not be considered a HBP. I just feel like if the part of the guys body that gets hit is out of the batter’s box it’s wrong to punish a pitcher for it.
What do y’all think?
If the part of the body hit is outside of the batter's box, it should not be considered HBP.
Posted on 5/5/19 at 3:54 pm to Terrific Tales
Yeah, it is though. The batter has a right to be there, and if there’s no swing, it’s rightfully a HBP. HBP is one of the risks of pitching inside, and appropriately so
Posted on 5/5/19 at 3:56 pm to TOFTR
Agree to disagree. I know what the rule is. I’m saying it needs a change. Technically a pitch wouldn’t have to be inside for that to happen. As long as the bat doesn’t cross the plate the batter’s arms could be fully extended and the pitch could be over the middle of the plate.
Posted on 5/5/19 at 3:57 pm to Terrific Tales
The issue is the risk of injury far outweighs the value of potentially exploiting the rule
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