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Ohio St. win last 1 or 2 Nattys if Urban chose Joe B as starter?
Posted on 1/15/20 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 1/15/20 at 4:46 pm
I think 1 or 2. We got 1 of the 2 they could have had.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 4:50 pm to JSM
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Ohio St. win last 1 or 2 Nattys if Urban chose Joe B as starter?
Impossible to know or assume. Our defense was ATROCIOUS last season. This season maybe, but Fields was damn good for us. Burrow was amazing, and good for him.
Joe kind of seems like a guy who thrives off of people not believing in him if that makes sense.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 4:52 pm to JSM
Was Burrow going to start over J.T. Barrett? Over Duane Haskins?
Posted on 1/15/20 at 4:53 pm to JSM
He might have needed a particular nudge that he got at LSU to reach his full potential. There are plenty of QBs who could have been great that wasted away because they didn't have a coaching staff that helped them realize their potential.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 4:55 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
If Joe chosen over Haskins for his last 2 years of eligibility and as per Joe's plan to sit behind Barett then become the starter.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 4:57 pm to JSM
No way of knowing. Too many variables. Such as: We had Chase, Jefferson, Marshall as receivers. Joe Brady. Coach E. Chemistry with our team was special. May not have been same at OSU. Joe’s bond with THIS team, in addition to his generational skills, made al the difference in the world. Impossible to say if he could have done what he did here at OSU. Most of all, Coach O.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 5:02 pm to aremore
Not to throw shade at Fields at all but if Ohio St. had Joe this year and we didn't , who wins Natty?
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 5:05 pm to JSM
Nah, the forge known as the SEC makes stronger teams than the joke of the Big10.
He would have just lost to an sec team.
He would have just lost to an sec team.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 5:16 pm to JSM
My guess is no. Even though Joe was a huge part, there was also so much more to this teams success. Ohio state doesn't have anyone like Chase. Let alone the combined effect with Jefferson, Marshall, and Moss.
I'd be more confident in saying they would replicate our success if they had Burrow, and Chase, and Jefferson, and Marshall, and Moss, but still not a gaurantee. The team chemistry. The focus THESE coaches instilled. The bama chip on this teams shoulder. ETC ETC. So many intangibles that wouldn't have been duplicated with just talent.
I'd be more confident in saying they would replicate our success if they had Burrow, and Chase, and Jefferson, and Marshall, and Moss, but still not a gaurantee. The team chemistry. The focus THESE coaches instilled. The bama chip on this teams shoulder. ETC ETC. So many intangibles that wouldn't have been duplicated with just talent.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 5:17 pm to JSM
Well, he got beat out right, or he would have been the starter.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 5:24 pm to JSM
W/o Joe, we def don’t win NC. OSU with Joe may or may not have won NC. Just saying it is impossible to know because there are just too many variables. After the NC game, Joe said how fortunate he was to have landed where he did. He implied his good fortune was in large part because of who he was surrounded by, players and coaches. Not sure that could have been replicated at OSU. Who knows?
Posted on 1/15/20 at 5:29 pm to JSM
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Ohio St. win last 1 or 2 Nattys if Urban chose Joe B as starter?
Neaux. tOSU didn't have the coaching staff to develop him as a player, nor to build plays plays good enough for his level of sophistication. Joe would never have done well at tOSU - just like he would have suffered under Les Miles type football at LSU.
Burrow's success relied upon a coaching staff who believed in him and built the offense around him, knowing all the while that they had a diamond standing behind center.
It takes having the personnel, and more importantly realizing you have those personnel, to create this perfect storm. This year was a perfect effort put out by both the coaching staff, the individual players, and the TEAM created by that combination.
These were superstars who laid aside their own egos to work with each other and to gel. LSU's season this past year demonstrates how a perfectly manufactured and well oiled machine can't be stopped.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 6:16 pm to JSM
The improvement of JB from last year to this year, you just don't see that sort of thing out of a quarterback. He obviously had great coaching to bring out his natural talent. So, the answer is no. At the Heisman speech, you could tell he was very grateful to the coaches for helping him go from average (Joe) to a superstar.
Plus, one of the big keys to LSU's success was the trenches, especially the offensive line. Clemson rushed 8 nearly every down because they knew they couldn't match up in any way, shape, or form. Ohio State OL not nearly as good. Again, answer no.
Plus, one of the big keys to LSU's success was the trenches, especially the offensive line. Clemson rushed 8 nearly every down because they knew they couldn't match up in any way, shape, or form. Ohio State OL not nearly as good. Again, answer no.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 6:55 pm to JSM
These threads are always stupid.
Why do LSU fans need us to have some sort of envy because Burrow decided to transfer? He made the right decision, and so did Urban Meyer.
Haskins had a great year and so did Fields. We'll also get another year from Fields while Joe is in the NFL.
Stop making it weird and enjoy it.
Why do LSU fans need us to have some sort of envy because Burrow decided to transfer? He made the right decision, and so did Urban Meyer.
Haskins had a great year and so did Fields. We'll also get another year from Fields while Joe is in the NFL.
Stop making it weird and enjoy it.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 6:59 pm to JSM
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Not to throw shade at Fields at all but if Ohio St. had Joe this year and we didn't , who wins Natty?
If Brady is coaching Fields instead of Burrow, then maybe LSU has the same season but by wins certain games by a smaller margin
Burrow at OSU isn't being coached by Brady either
Posted on 1/15/20 at 6:59 pm to Swamp Angel
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tOSU didn't have the coaching staff to develop him as a player, nor to build plays plays good enough for his level of sophistication. Joe would never have done well at tOSU
Joe Burrow doesn't agree.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 6:59 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
That's the question, Did Urban make the right decision?
Posted on 1/15/20 at 7:01 pm to JSM
I think he did. It would have been nice to have Burrow come after Haskins for a season, but Haskins was the right choice.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 7:16 pm to JSM
He would have absolutely killed it this year at OSU. They were 50/50 run-pass. Fields missed the equivalent of 3 games due to being pulled early. Same with Dobbins who still had over 2000 rushing yards.... They had 5 very efficient receivers who spread around the wealth led by KJ Hill, Olave, and that phenomenal freshman from Texas whose name escapes me...... plus Day who guided Haskins last year to 5000 yards and 50 TD's.... So yea, Joe would have been just as prolific there as their O-line was elite. He also had 3 years in their system.
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