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Off Season Topic: How to reorganize college football. (I'm beating a dead horse, I know.)
Posted on 12/10/18 at 11:43 am
Posted on 12/10/18 at 11:43 am
We need 4 power conferences with 14 or 16 teams in each conference, and we need a 16 team playoff. We also need the Big 10 and the SEC to step back and allow the ACC and the PAC12 to get some good new members, for the sake of parody and the national future of college football.
Texas, Tech, OU, and OSU need to join the PAC 16. Notre Dame needs to join the ACC, along with one leftover member of the current Big 12, maybe Kansas State or Kansas or even West Virginia. Maybe Memphis. The SEC and the Big 10 can add two members of the old Big 12 if we want (split West Virginia, Kansas, Iowa State, and Kansas State - or stay at 14 teams and let ACC choose from one of those teams, allowing the rest to drop from top level college football.)
Initially, you might think this is bad for the SEC and Big 10, but it's not, because it's good for college football nationally. We'd have a great setup for a true playoffs, and a system that makes sense regionally.
Texas, Tech, OU, and OSU need to join the PAC 16. Notre Dame needs to join the ACC, along with one leftover member of the current Big 12, maybe Kansas State or Kansas or even West Virginia. Maybe Memphis. The SEC and the Big 10 can add two members of the old Big 12 if we want (split West Virginia, Kansas, Iowa State, and Kansas State - or stay at 14 teams and let ACC choose from one of those teams, allowing the rest to drop from top level college football.)
Initially, you might think this is bad for the SEC and Big 10, but it's not, because it's good for college football nationally. We'd have a great setup for a true playoffs, and a system that makes sense regionally.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 11:48 am to Hugh McElroy
I really liked the Pod idea that was floated a year or two ago.
4 Conferences of 16 Teams
4 Divisions within each conference
Permanent home and home with 3 teams in your division plus 1 other rival in each other division of your conference (6 games)
Rotate 3 games between the 3 other divisions (3 games)
At least 1 OOC game against a P4 conference team (1 game)
At least 1 OOC game against a NP4 D1 team (1 game)
FCS game (1st or 2nd week of the season)
For the OOC game against a P4 conference team it would be fun to do it like the NFL where the Number 1 teams play each other all the way down to the number 16 teams play each other. Go off previous years rankings. Similar to the Big 12 SEC challenge in Bball.
4 Conferences of 16 Teams
4 Divisions within each conference
Permanent home and home with 3 teams in your division plus 1 other rival in each other division of your conference (6 games)
Rotate 3 games between the 3 other divisions (3 games)
At least 1 OOC game against a P4 conference team (1 game)
At least 1 OOC game against a NP4 D1 team (1 game)
FCS game (1st or 2nd week of the season)
For the OOC game against a P4 conference team it would be fun to do it like the NFL where the Number 1 teams play each other all the way down to the number 16 teams play each other. Go off previous years rankings. Similar to the Big 12 SEC challenge in Bball.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 11:56 am to AggieDub14
I like that system, too, but I think it is too hard on programs from strong regions, like the South. Since the playoff system is basically just the 16 teams who won each pod, then strong programs from weaker regions get a really big advantage.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 11:58 am to Hugh McElroy
No
6 conferences with 14 teams.
Not in a conference not eligible for playoff
All conferences play the same number of conference games, preferably 9 or 10
All non conference games must be vs teams from one of the other 5 conferences
All conferences have a championship game but can individually decide how to determine who plays in it. Ie 2 division winners or the 2 teams with the best conference records after tie breakers are factored in.
12 team playoff with the conference championship games serving as the de facto first round
After the CCGs teams are seeded and top 2 get a bye.
Non conference and non national championship Playoff games are at the home field of the higher seed
NC game rotated between various sites
Keep the other bowls...or not I don’t care.
6 conferences with 14 teams.
Not in a conference not eligible for playoff
All conferences play the same number of conference games, preferably 9 or 10
All non conference games must be vs teams from one of the other 5 conferences
All conferences have a championship game but can individually decide how to determine who plays in it. Ie 2 division winners or the 2 teams with the best conference records after tie breakers are factored in.
12 team playoff with the conference championship games serving as the de facto first round
After the CCGs teams are seeded and top 2 get a bye.
Non conference and non national championship Playoff games are at the home field of the higher seed
NC game rotated between various sites
Keep the other bowls...or not I don’t care.
This post was edited on 12/10/18 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:13 pm to Hugh McElroy
I would like moving to geographical based conferences.
8 conferences, you play your other 8 conference members, 4 OOC games. Only 1 game can be against a team outside of these conferences. Each champ goes to the playoff, 2 at large bids, and highest 4 seeds get a first round bye, #1 ranked team gets a 2nd round bye so the regular season still means something. 10-7-4-2-1.
North East
Syracuse
Rutgers
Pitt
Penn State
Boston College
West Virginia
Maryland
Virginia Tech
UCONN
MidWest
Indiana
Purdue
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Illinois
Northwestern
Michigan
Michigan State
Ohio State
East
UNC
NC State
Duke
Louisville
Kentucky
Wake Forest
Virginia
Notre Dame
Cincinatti
South
Alabama
Auburn
Ole Miss
Miss State
LSU
Arkansas
Tennesssee
Vanderbilt
Memphis
South West
Texas
Texas A&M
TCU
Texas Tech
Arizona
Arizona State
Baylor
Utah
Houston
West
Washington
Washington St.
Oregon
Oregon State
Stanford
Cal
USC
UCLA
Boise State
South East
Miami
Florida State
Florida
UCF
USF
Georgia
Georgia Tech
South Carolina
Clemson
Plains
Missouri
Nebraska
Kansas
Kansas State
Colorado
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Iowa State
Iowa
8 conferences, you play your other 8 conference members, 4 OOC games. Only 1 game can be against a team outside of these conferences. Each champ goes to the playoff, 2 at large bids, and highest 4 seeds get a first round bye, #1 ranked team gets a 2nd round bye so the regular season still means something. 10-7-4-2-1.
North East
Syracuse
Rutgers
Pitt
Penn State
Boston College
West Virginia
Maryland
Virginia Tech
UCONN
MidWest
Indiana
Purdue
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Illinois
Northwestern
Michigan
Michigan State
Ohio State
East
UNC
NC State
Duke
Louisville
Kentucky
Wake Forest
Virginia
Notre Dame
Cincinatti
South
Alabama
Auburn
Ole Miss
Miss State
LSU
Arkansas
Tennesssee
Vanderbilt
Memphis
South West
Texas
Texas A&M
TCU
Texas Tech
Arizona
Arizona State
Baylor
Utah
Houston
West
Washington
Washington St.
Oregon
Oregon State
Stanford
Cal
USC
UCLA
Boise State
South East
Miami
Florida State
Florida
UCF
USF
Georgia
Georgia Tech
South Carolina
Clemson
Plains
Missouri
Nebraska
Kansas
Kansas State
Colorado
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Iowa State
Iowa
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:16 pm to Hugh McElroy
4 conferences of 16; 4 conference winners in the playoff. That creates a de facto 8-team playoff with the conference championships, based solely on objective conference standings rather than subjective rankings. Let the AP rankings determine the playoff seeding.
Dissolve the Big 12, with 4 of the 6 Texas and Oklahoma teams to the PAC and 2 to the SEC; Iowa State and the 2 Kansas teams to the Big 16; and WV to the ACC. Then Notre Dame should join the ACC, but that leaves us with 65, so Notre Dame should have to hold an auction to buy their way into the P4 (lowest bidder wins). But preferably, the Big 16 should just give Rutgers the boot; they don't belong. This will be Division 1.
The current group of 5 should become Division 2 and create their own playoff, so that UCF, Boise, and whoever else comes along can actually win a championship that nobody cares about. FCS becomes division 3, D2 becomes D4, and so forth.
10 conference games for all of the P4. Only allowed to play up or down 1 Division at most (so no more FCS for P4 teams). But I think most teams will be using one of their OOC on a rival like Oklahoma/Texas if they don't end up in the same conference, and the other OOC as a tune up game.
7 of your 10 conference games is of course within your division, with 2 cross-divisional games alternating, and 1 based on where you placed the prior season (1 vs 1, 2 vs 2, etc.) Alabama/Tenn and Auburn/UGA will be preserved by moving the Alabama teams to the East, and moving Missouri and the two new additions to the West (the SEC will then make sense geographically). SEC Championship game to rotate between Atlanta and New Orleans or some other major city located within the Western Division. The other conferences can realign as they see fit.
Dissolve the Big 12, with 4 of the 6 Texas and Oklahoma teams to the PAC and 2 to the SEC; Iowa State and the 2 Kansas teams to the Big 16; and WV to the ACC. Then Notre Dame should join the ACC, but that leaves us with 65, so Notre Dame should have to hold an auction to buy their way into the P4 (lowest bidder wins). But preferably, the Big 16 should just give Rutgers the boot; they don't belong. This will be Division 1.
The current group of 5 should become Division 2 and create their own playoff, so that UCF, Boise, and whoever else comes along can actually win a championship that nobody cares about. FCS becomes division 3, D2 becomes D4, and so forth.
10 conference games for all of the P4. Only allowed to play up or down 1 Division at most (so no more FCS for P4 teams). But I think most teams will be using one of their OOC on a rival like Oklahoma/Texas if they don't end up in the same conference, and the other OOC as a tune up game.
7 of your 10 conference games is of course within your division, with 2 cross-divisional games alternating, and 1 based on where you placed the prior season (1 vs 1, 2 vs 2, etc.) Alabama/Tenn and Auburn/UGA will be preserved by moving the Alabama teams to the East, and moving Missouri and the two new additions to the West (the SEC will then make sense geographically). SEC Championship game to rotate between Atlanta and New Orleans or some other major city located within the Western Division. The other conferences can realign as they see fit.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:17 pm to Hugh McElroy
Isn't it something? We let you assholes into our tradition-rich conference, and the first thing you want to do is destroy it.
Why don't you aggies take your team, and all your ideas on how to frick up college football conferences to some other conference? We're fine here.
Why don't you aggies take your team, and all your ideas on how to frick up college football conferences to some other conference? We're fine here.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:19 pm to Hugh McElroy
The Big 12 would have to implode to get to 4 conferences.
If I'm the SEC, I do not want any schools from the Big 12 not named Oklahoma or Texas.
I know that's a sore subject for aTm fans and probably a lot of other fans, but we don't need to add mediocrity to the conference. I sure don't want to tie my team down to having to play Texas Tech or Kansas every year.
If I'm the SEC, I do not want any schools from the Big 12 not named Oklahoma or Texas.
I know that's a sore subject for aTm fans and probably a lot of other fans, but we don't need to add mediocrity to the conference. I sure don't want to tie my team down to having to play Texas Tech or Kansas every year.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:44 pm to memphis tiger
Bye weeks in a college playoff is stupid. Too big of an advantage. Make it 8 or make it 16 or make it 4. Frick off with your 12 or 6.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 1:38 pm to AggieDub14
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Bye weeks in a college playoff is stupid. Too big of an advantage. Make it 8 or make it 16 or make it 4. Frick off with your 12 or 6
Damn. I know one little Aggie with some sand in his vagina.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 1:42 pm to Hugh McElroy
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beating a dead horse
RA'd for problematic language. Please edit to "feed a fed horse"
Thanks.
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