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Posted on 1/18/22 at 11:46 am to dirty bastard
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It was a pass. A ball doesn't travel 10 yards in the direction of the throwing motion unless it was thrown. Also, Bryce's pass should've in been intentional grounding.
Well it didn't travel 10 yards in the direction of the throwing motion.
It went about 5 yards forward, and 19 yards out of bounds in the opposite direction of the incoming sack. AKA the defender knocked it that way with the hit.
Posted on 1/18/22 at 12:42 pm to DawgsLife
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Does the arm not have to be going forward to push it forward
It does but it doesn’t have to be possessed
Posted on 1/18/22 at 12:46 pm to WG_Dawg
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The rules desperately need to be rewritten from arm "going forward" to somethign along the lines of intent to pass.
Would need the ref to be a mind reader. Just needs to be a wr in the area
Posted on 1/18/22 at 1:11 pm to djsdawg
My issues was the fumble they confirmed but the call of grounding if it wasnt a fumble..that’s what pissed me off in the stands.
Saying he was hit and fumbled but having any clue where he would have been passing had it not been for the hit.
Also..zero holding calls against either team on line of scrimmage. Zero.
Saying he was hit and fumbled but having any clue where he would have been passing had it not been for the hit.
Also..zero holding calls against either team on line of scrimmage. Zero.
Posted on 1/18/22 at 1:25 pm to RealDawg
slow motion tweet
Here is a great slow motion tweet of the play.
Watch his right elbow go forward. And notice the position of the ball when that happens. That is the definition of a forward throwing motion. The ball is 100% secure at this point.
When the motion reaches the hand, that forward thrust is what dislodges the ball. The forward motion is literally the force which caused the fumble.
It didnt effect the game. It just baffles me how the shoulder and elbow drive forward and people dont see that as a forward pass attempt.
Here is a great slow motion tweet of the play.
Watch his right elbow go forward. And notice the position of the ball when that happens. That is the definition of a forward throwing motion. The ball is 100% secure at this point.
When the motion reaches the hand, that forward thrust is what dislodges the ball. The forward motion is literally the force which caused the fumble.
It didnt effect the game. It just baffles me how the shoulder and elbow drive forward and people dont see that as a forward pass attempt.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:55 am to Zanzibaw
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Well hopefully it wasn't your boss because you can't prove that with a physics equation. You can't equate possession of the ball.
To be clear. What I did was prove it was impossible to make the ball move that far with instantaneous contact
I didn’t get into the impulse (possession) because I was only trying to prove that it couldn’t have happened without possession. Proving that it can happen isn’t necessary because it did happen therefore it had to happen one of the 2 ways
Posted on 1/19/22 at 7:31 am to djsdawg
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It does but it doesn’t have to be possessed
True.
This post was edited on 1/19/22 at 7:38 am
Posted on 1/19/22 at 7:33 am to borotiger
The ball was moving before his arm went forward. It was the correct call.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:27 pm to Terrific Tales
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because I was only trying to prove that it couldn’t have happened without possession
Explain to me how kicking works then? you don't have to have possession for the forward momentum of your hand to knock the ball forward all of 20 ft
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