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NOTRE DAME ranked 10th. 18th is the next 6 win team

Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:41 am
Posted by stitchop
jonesboro
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:41 am
It's a farce
Posted by travelgamer
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:43 am to
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It's a farce


It has been for a LONG time, they don't need alumi just the Catholics. Their fan base is huge due to faith (nothing wrong with faith.) They bring in tv sets.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
11083 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:51 am to
Early losses and late losses should be treated closer to the same thing
Posted by stitchop
jonesboro
Member since Oct 2020
163 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:59 am to
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Early losses and late losses should be treated closer to the same thing


Exactly

It's like, the first run in a baseball game, and the last run, which one counts more towards the final score
Posted by RammerJammer91
Member since Jan 2016
5502 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:09 am to
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NOTRE DAME ranked 10th. 18th is the next 6 win team



I've been getting down-voted for a while for simply saying that ND isn't very good. It's all those A&M fans because stating the truth, that ND is not a good team, makes their "signature" win over them look not so good. The rest of the SEC realizes that ND is not a good football team, but A&M twists themselves into pretzels defending ND.
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
19242 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:11 am to
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I've been getting down-voted for a while for simply saying that ND isn't very good. It's all those A&M fans because stating the truth, that ND is not a good team, makes their "signature" win over them look not so good. The rest of the SEC realizes that ND is not a good football team, but A&M twists themselves into pretzels defending ND.


When ND wins out and wins their first playoff game, will you admit you were wrong?
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
19242 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:13 am to
ND is the highest 2 loss team at 10. The next 2 loss team is 11, then another at 12, then another one at 13.
Posted by RammerJammer91
Member since Jan 2016
5502 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:13 am to
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When ND wins out and wins their first playoff game, will you admit you were wrong?



If it's against someone with an actual pulse, sure. If it's against a fraudulent team like BYU, no. That said, I don't think they'll win out and make the CFP.
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
19242 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:15 am to
This is also an odd post for an Arkansas fan, given the atrocities they committed against your team in Fayetteville earlier this year.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
35398 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:16 am to
The fact you look at teams "6 win team" is the farce here.

It's not the rest of college footballs fault this is the depth of your understanding.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
9081 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:27 am to
Not really. ND has 2 losses to good teams by a total of 4 points and they have won all the rest of their games by at least 10. 10th isn't outrageous. Do you really think Texas and OU are that much better on a neutral field for instance?

FWIW, one of the most interesting teams to watch the next few weeks in regards to the playoff is Pitt. They stumbled early and have really been playing well lately. They get a bye this week and then get ND at home, at G Tech, and then Miami at home. I don't think they are going to be in the Playoff but I do think there are going to wreak some havoc because I think they win 2 of those 3. Pitt is a dangerous.

Another huge game is going to be G Tech vs Georgia. They win that and they are likely in, they lose and they are likely out.

Oregon is also in a dangerous spot as they have a dangerous schedule to finish out. At Iowa. At Washington. USC and Minnesota at home. If they drop one of those they could be knocked out, they drop 2 and they are done. This is not a great Oregon team.

The only thing certain is a lot is going to change and it's all about who finishes.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
45677 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:31 am to
ND has played three ranked teams and lost to two of them. Their best win is #19 USC.
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
32326 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:34 am to
The biggest farce is having another two loss team who beat them ranked below them.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 11:34 am
Posted by stitchop
jonesboro
Member since Oct 2020
163 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:34 am to
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ND has 2 losses to good teams by a total of 4 points


ND has played 3 college teams and 5 high-school teams.

Posted by zdfger
Member since Dec 2020
567 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:37 am to
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If it's against someone with an actual pulse, sure.


Translation You mean a team that’s on Bamas schedule
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
9081 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:42 am to
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ND has played three ranked teams and lost to two of them. Their best win is #19 USC.


Ok. Texas is behind them and lost to Florida and should have lost to both Kentucky and State. OU could honestly probably make a better argument but it's not like they are lacking flaws.

I could see ND being a couple spots lower but it's a solid argument for them to have 2 losses to good teams early by 4 points combined and then having won the rest by 10 plus. If they beat Pitt and Navy the next 2 weeks and then destroy Stanford and Syracuse they have a really strong argument to make it in with so many other teams starting to falter. If Texas and OU win out they are absolutely in and will be rated above ND because they have a lot tougher schedule. If it's a 3 loss Texas/OU vs a 2 loss ND though they will lose that head to head. Other teams will move up and down though.

It's a snapshot at this point and nothing was outrageous. When the debate is a spot or two and there is still a lot of football left it's a shoulder shrug for me.
Posted by JacieNY
Member since Jul 2024
1439 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 12:03 pm to
The biggest farce is having another two loss team who beat them ranked below them . . .

. . . Miami.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 12:04 pm
Posted by RammerJammer91
Member since Jan 2016
5502 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 12:03 pm to
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ND has played three ranked teams and lost to two of them. Their best win is #19 USC.



Agreed. The ONLY argument I could see is ND lost in the last seconds to the #3 team and the #18 team. They looked awful in both games. Against Miami they needed a bad bounce to go against them and against A&M they lost because the refs missed one of the more blatant holding calls of all time.

I hate that argument, because by that logic, Auburn has played a bunch of ranked teams really close, and they got royally screwed against UGA on the goal-line. But everyone thinks they stink, whereas a lot of people (not me) think that ND is really good.
Posted by Dr RC
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 12:20 pm to
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If it's against someone with an actual pulse, sure. If it's against a fraudulent team like BYU, no.





So Tennessee whose big win is 5-4 Miss State and gives up 31ppg has a pulse...

UGA, whose big wins are against the 3 loss Tennessee team that gives up 31ppg and Ole Miss who struggled against a bad Wazzu has a pulse...

Vandy whose big wins are against an LSU that fired their HC and a Mizzou squad reduced to playing their 3rd string true freshman QB has a pulse...

Mizzou who was using their backup QB vs Bama and whose big win is... Kansas has a pulse...


But.... USC who beat the breaks off of Michigan (OU's big win) does not.



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That said, I don't think they'll win out and make the CFP


Navy (7-1)
at #24 Pitt (7-2)
Syracuse (3-6)
at Stanford (3-6)

If USC has no pulse I'm wondering which of these teams you think have one that is going to beat ND? Is it Navy whose only loss is to the same North Texas that beat Wazzu 59-10 a few weeks before Ole Miss barely scrapped by 24-20? Or is it Pitt and/or Stanford who both defeated the Florida State squad that beat the ever living frick out of Bama?
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 12:36 pm
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
21559 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 12:25 pm to
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Early losses and late losses should be treated closer to the same thing

Honestly, I'd rather see a 1-2 game preseason exhibition (even if it were just a half and some agreed upon situational moments) . Then, I'd agree. But, until then, SoS imbalance is so poor with too many internal/external variables to really place equal weight on the play of early vs late season games IMO.
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