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Posted on 7/5/19 at 10:34 am
Posted on 7/5/19 at 10:34 am
How did Bama let Clemson walk all over them and not even put up a fight after halftime? As much as it hurts me to say this as a SC fan and alum, Clemson had a great team last year. But alabama was definitely a better team than we were last year, and we played them much stronger with much more fight.
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Posted on 7/5/19 at 10:36 am to chawk195
Tua Turnatheballover had a bad game. To be fair, he will be back and be OK. He's a good QB.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 10:36 am to chawk195
did you watch the game? People look at the score and think it was a total bloodbath but it really wasn't, bama moved the ball with ease between the 20s and I think only had about 30 less yards overall through teh game. They just had issues wiht poor reads, poor throws, bad play calls, interceptions, etc that we haven't seen from bama since 2007.
If those 2 exact teams played 10 times I think bama probably wins about 6 or 7 of them, they just had the ultimate perfect storm of mistakes in that one.
If those 2 exact teams played 10 times I think bama probably wins about 6 or 7 of them, they just had the ultimate perfect storm of mistakes in that one.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 10:40 am to WG_Dawg
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did you watch the game? People look at the score and think it was a total bloodbath but it really wasn't, bama moved the ball with ease between the 20s and I think only had about 30 less yards overall through teh game. They just had issues wiht poor reads, poor throws, bad play calls, interceptions, etc that we haven't seen from bama since 2007.
If those 2 exact teams played 10 times I think bama probably wins about 6 or 7 of them, they just had the ultimate perfect storm of mistakes in that one.
It was an odd situation, im not sure if they were over confident or what exactly happened but that game was a blowout. Bama moved the ball well at times but had turnovers which is a part of football. Clemson moved the ball well almost every drive. Their Defense wasnt what it usually is, hopefully because of pruitt but i have a hard time imagining an alabama team under saban with their current roster is going to have alot of games like that.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 10:41 am to WG_Dawg
Just like most sports baseball or basketball, it's all about the matchups. In saying that some teams just play better against other teams and it's not always about talent in some cases.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 10:43 am to WG_Dawg
Was just a bad game and we ran in to a team that was clicking on all cylinders. Clemson was a great team and, unfortunately, we played very poorly. They were part of the reason we played poorly, so I dont say that to take anything away from them. Was just a perfect storm of forced and unforced mistakes and I do think we got cocky and thought we would win just by walking on to the field.
shite happens. Cant win them all.
shite happens. Cant win them all.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 10:44 am to chawk195
Thought Jalen should have been inserted for Tua way early in that game...Tua was off and had been off for a while.
This post was edited on 7/5/19 at 10:46 am
Posted on 7/5/19 at 10:45 am to chawk195
Clemson was a much better team than bama. It’s pretty simple.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 10:55 am to chawk195
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How did Bama let Clemson walk all over them and not even put up a fight after halftime?
In all fairness I think Clemson has a major advantage in that they live in a State where no university is able to compete against them in recruiting. They are essentially the only football university in the State. Then you look to the north and there really isn't much competition for recruiting either. They essentially have both states locked up.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 10:58 am to chawk195
I'm watching a replay of the game I DVR'd right now ... the way the game started I remember thinking Bama was going to romp. Boy did things change in a hurry with the pick six on Bama's opening drive.
But Bama answered right away.
Things really seemed to change about midway through the 2nd quarter when Bama was forced to kick a FG and then Clemson turned around and drove the length of the field for the go ahead score and made it look easy.
Real difference in this game while rewatching it was Etienne. He’s a stud.
But Bama answered right away.
Things really seemed to change about midway through the 2nd quarter when Bama was forced to kick a FG and then Clemson turned around and drove the length of the field for the go ahead score and made it look easy.
Real difference in this game while rewatching it was Etienne. He’s a stud.
This post was edited on 7/5/19 at 11:38 am
Posted on 7/5/19 at 11:09 am to TimeOutdoors
To be fair, there isn't enough talent just in the state to field the kind of team Clemson has put together. Clemson has pulled a lot of talent from Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, North Carolina and many other states. As well as pulling the elite players from South Carolina
Posted on 7/5/19 at 11:20 am to TimeOutdoors
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In all fairness I think Clemson has a major advantage in that they live in a State where no university is able to compete against them in recruiting. They are essentially the only football university in the State. Then you look to the north and there really isn't much competition for recruiting either. They essentially have both states locked up.
They pull a lot better talent outta Georgia, Louisiana, Florida and Alabama.
They’ve become a well oiled machine
Posted on 7/5/19 at 11:27 am to chawk195
The main thing is Clemson outcoached Alabama. They knew the matchups they wanted, they created them and the profited from it.
Overall both Locksley and Tosh were hired in the positions they were at mostly because they were good recruiters and tried to keep them. And Alabama was able to get by on talent most of the year, but they were both exposed in that game.
Tua's turnovers didn't help. Clemson scored 14 pts off turnovers, 7 of them right away with the pick 6. That pick six was 100% coaching. They knew Tua's tendencies and set him up to throw the interception by fooling him. I believe they also fooled him on the 2nd interception.
But offensively the bigger problem was probably the redzone offense. In the 3rd and 4th quarters Alabama was often times going for it in situations they normally wouldn't. Maybe because Saban didn't trust our kickers, but also because we needed to score points. Locksley really had nothing for Clemson in the redzone.
And defensively they abused the absolute shite out of #4 Savion Smith. I went back recently and watched over the game and kept track of the offensive plays for Clemson and more than half their total passing yards came against recievers Smith was covering...and he left early in the 3rd quarter after the "injury" and like 70+ yard TD given up. Clemson only scored 1 more TD after that, but the score was so out of hand it's impossible to really know if it was due to better coverage play from Jobe, or if Clemson just shut it down. My guess is a little bit of both.
And that's not counting the rushing yards to his side of the field, as I don't know how fair it is to put that on him.
Which really comes down to a coaching problem again. Everyone(especially Clemson) knew Savion Smith was going to struggle. He did it all year long. He was terrible at setting the edge against the run and was constantly getting beat in coverage. That the coaching staff had no adjustments or anything else to deal with it is BAD.
And on top of that, Lawrence rarely felt pressure all night long which only went to make things worse for Smith. Which some credit goes to Clemson obviously, but I couldn't help but watch the game and think how unimaginative our blitzes were - when they even came. Often times rushing with only 3. If you give a good QB so much time, he's going to find the open man.
For me, I don't know Oklahoma's offense did such a bad job of gameplanning. They for some reason didn't attack these obvious weaknesses.
Overall both Locksley and Tosh were hired in the positions they were at mostly because they were good recruiters and tried to keep them. And Alabama was able to get by on talent most of the year, but they were both exposed in that game.
Tua's turnovers didn't help. Clemson scored 14 pts off turnovers, 7 of them right away with the pick 6. That pick six was 100% coaching. They knew Tua's tendencies and set him up to throw the interception by fooling him. I believe they also fooled him on the 2nd interception.
But offensively the bigger problem was probably the redzone offense. In the 3rd and 4th quarters Alabama was often times going for it in situations they normally wouldn't. Maybe because Saban didn't trust our kickers, but also because we needed to score points. Locksley really had nothing for Clemson in the redzone.
And defensively they abused the absolute shite out of #4 Savion Smith. I went back recently and watched over the game and kept track of the offensive plays for Clemson and more than half their total passing yards came against recievers Smith was covering...and he left early in the 3rd quarter after the "injury" and like 70+ yard TD given up. Clemson only scored 1 more TD after that, but the score was so out of hand it's impossible to really know if it was due to better coverage play from Jobe, or if Clemson just shut it down. My guess is a little bit of both.
And that's not counting the rushing yards to his side of the field, as I don't know how fair it is to put that on him.
Which really comes down to a coaching problem again. Everyone(especially Clemson) knew Savion Smith was going to struggle. He did it all year long. He was terrible at setting the edge against the run and was constantly getting beat in coverage. That the coaching staff had no adjustments or anything else to deal with it is BAD.
And on top of that, Lawrence rarely felt pressure all night long which only went to make things worse for Smith. Which some credit goes to Clemson obviously, but I couldn't help but watch the game and think how unimaginative our blitzes were - when they even came. Often times rushing with only 3. If you give a good QB so much time, he's going to find the open man.
For me, I don't know Oklahoma's offense did such a bad job of gameplanning. They for some reason didn't attack these obvious weaknesses.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 11:35 am to 3down10
quote:Spot on.
Overall both Locksley and Tosh were hired in the positions they were at mostly because they were good recruiters and tried to keep them. And Alabama was able to get by on talent most of the year, but they were both exposed in that game.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 11:45 am to chawk195
Bama beat the hell out of itself.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 11:46 am to 3down10
Actually .... if you go back to the Oklahoma playoff game Bama’s defense showed some serious gaps and Clemson appears to have used that film to exploit the same weaknesses. You have to hand it to Clemson’s offense for pulling it off.
Conversely, once Bama was two scores behind, Tua found himself in an unfamiliar situation.
Clemson was not challenged by Notre Dame in the least so they really had no weaknesses exposed that Bama might have game planned for .... although, obviously, they had some weaknesses but Bama failed to exploit them.
So yeah, Bama was outcoached. Clemson also had an easy ride to the title game. Not taking away from their win but they were basically unscathed heading into that game.
Conversely, once Bama was two scores behind, Tua found himself in an unfamiliar situation.
Clemson was not challenged by Notre Dame in the least so they really had no weaknesses exposed that Bama might have game planned for .... although, obviously, they had some weaknesses but Bama failed to exploit them.
So yeah, Bama was outcoached. Clemson also had an easy ride to the title game. Not taking away from their win but they were basically unscathed heading into that game.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 11:53 am to chawk195
Honestly think the second half of the OU game scared them and was still in their heads.
Just not confident. Where Clemson was different than UGA was on the dline and Bama could not impose their will late on Clemson on the ground.
Just not confident. Where Clemson was different than UGA was on the dline and Bama could not impose their will late on Clemson on the ground.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:00 pm to scrooster
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Actually .... if you go back to the Oklahoma playoff game Bama’s defense showed some serious gaps and Clemson appears to have used that film to exploit the same weaknesses. You have to hand it to Clemson’s offense for pulling it off.
Conversely, once Bama was two scores behind, Tua found himself in an unfamiliar situation.
Clemson was not challenged by Notre Dame in the least so they really had no weaknesses exposed that Bama might have game planned for .... although, obviously, they had some weaknesses but Bama failed to exploit them.
So yeah, Bama was outcoached. Clemson also had an easy ride to the title game. Not taking away from their win but they were basically unscathed heading into that game.
I haven't really paid attention or even watched the Oklahoma game again, so you may be right. But in that game it felt like they were going after Surtain(I think it was, I'm terrible with names) while not doing much towards Savion.
Clemson did have a really easy schedule all year long for sure. And I think if Diggs hadn't been injured then it would have been a better game as Smith likely wouldn't be out there. But that's football and everyone has to deal with it. Some years you have luck, some you don't. Would have loved to have Eddie Jackson a few years ago too and Texas fans will probably never shut up about 2009.
Clemson is also pretty lucky that they have the Frank Kimmel of DC's.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:06 pm to chawk195
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we played them much stronger with much more fight.
A heavy underdog playing a National title contending rival after playing Wofford the week prior vs a CFP finals with a QB off of surgery, a team that had to to outpace a very good OU team the week prior, and playing a postseason opponent in a 4th straight year...
Maybe, just maybe, USCe benefited from getting a home game, playing a bit more loosely with nothing to lose, and Clemson not 100% concerned with being upset given the matchup.
Clemson outprepared, outcoached, and outplayed Bama. They executed better in all facets. Bama had some success, but couldn't get out of their own way at times with mental errors and lack of discipline. They didn't have it in them to turn it around in the second half. Hopefully, it lights a fire this year and some better all around onfield leadership emerges.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 1:07 pm to BoerneAg
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Clemson was a much better team than bama. It’s pretty simple.
it was obvious.
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