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re: No Team in AP Era Has Won 3 Consecutive National Titles
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:03 am to GeauxLSU4
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:03 am to GeauxLSU4
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Call me crazy, but I think bama loses 2 games. It's just too hard to stay on top for that long. During the last 2 years, bama has depended on other teams losing late in the year to get into the title game. That won't keep happening
Especially next year...IMO, there are too many good teams with easy schedules...
I think Ohio State breezes through the Big 10
it will be OSU vs. whoever emerges from Clemson/South Carolina/Georgia
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:03 am to UAFanFromNOLA
Even with that schedule, Louisville will lose a game.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:18 am to GeauxLSU4
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bama has depended on other teams losing late in the year to get into the title game
In all fairness, many Championship teams have relied on the very same thing.
Alabama in 2011 and 2012
LSU in 2007 (multiple teams had to lose)
Florida in 2006 and 2008
LSU in 2003 (And USC, too)
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:25 am to MSUbulldogs03
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Not a chance. NCAA would lose to much respect from the rest of the country if a 1 loss SEC team made it over an undefeated team from any major conference. People around the country would see it as the NCAA just showing favoritism towards the SEC, even though any 1 loss SEC team is clearly the best team in the country.
I dunno man. I don't really think anyone still considers the Big East a major conference and Louisville's tomato can schedule isn't going to help their cause.
Last year Louisville was undefeated thru the Nov 3 weekend. At that point they were 10/10 in the human polls. But they were behind 6 SEC teams in the computer polls (and realize this is before A&M beat Bama). Their schedule if anything is worse than last year (hard to believe but true).
And at that same point, despite being 2 in both human polls, Oregon was behind KSU because of a .09 difference in computer polls. Meanwhile an undefeated Louisville was .40 behind. It's just a massive gap. They really needed to get a marquee non-conference game this year because it's going to take some extraordinary events to get them in the conversation imo
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:29 am to MSUbulldogs03
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Not a chance. NCAA would lose to much respect from the rest of the country if a 1 loss SEC team made it over an undefeated team from any major conference. People around the country would see it as the NCAA just showing favoritism towards the SEC, even though any 1 loss SEC team is clearly the best team in the country. Remember how big of a deal it was made when OK State didn't get in over Bama? Think if OK State would have been undefeated how bad it would have been.
Have you seen Louisville's schedule?
Ohio
Eastern Kentucky
@ Kentucky
FIU
---BYE---
@ Temple
Rutgers
UCF
@ USF
---BYE---
@ Connecticut
Houston
Memphis
@ Cincinnati
Makes Ohio State's schedule look daunting.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:34 am to Tuscaloosa
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bama has depended on other teams losing late in the year to get into the title game
Last year KSU was killed by baylor and Oregon had it's shot and was beaten by stanford. Can't say either deserved to be in NC game.
Alabama took care of business in the SECCG and deserved it.
The year before that, OSU was beat by Iowa State. Hard to blame that on Bama. Bama only lost to the number 1 team. Bama was also the underdog that year but it turned out the other team didn't really belong there.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:35 am to Big Kat
50 thousand billion percent.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:36 am to TwelfthMan
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Bama was also the underdog that year but it turned out the other team didn't really belong there.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:59 am to USMC Gators
Will anybody else laugh when UF wins the SEC with a 12-1 record and UL is undefeated?
Posted on 5/21/13 at 12:22 pm to Big Kat
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Talking about football of course.
What percent chance do you think Bama has to be the first 3peat?
I say pretty high. 40% chance.
Repeats are tough, repeats might have a 40% chance at best.
Three-peats are almost impossible. Far less than a 40% chance. Probably, if the vegas oddsmakers were handicapping it, it would be less than a 10% chance even when you figure-in Bama's dominance and playing in the SEC ... matter of fact, that they play in the SEC is what will make it next to impossible to three-peat.
South Carolina went for the three-peat last year in college baseball and fell short of course. It's been done before, waaaay back in the 70s before the schollie rules were changed. Very few teams even play for three-peats.
Makes what UCLA did in basketball, in the 60s and 70s, even all the more impressive.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 12:27 pm to Big Kat
I think Bama has as good a shot as anyone, but something tells me this is the year we slip up and have another 2010. I'll say 30%.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 12:30 pm to scrooster
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Probably, if the vegas oddsmakers were handicapping it, it would be less than a 10% chance even when you figure-in Bama's dominance and playing in the SEC .
Those statistics only work if the 3 peat hasn't started. Once 2 of the 3 years are completed, it's only handicapping the odds of winning it 1 year (with a few intangibles thrown in). So, Bama's odds of winning it this year are basically the same as they were in winning it either of the last two years, individually.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 12:33 pm to Big Kat
It doesn't count when you have a mulligan and don't even win your own division. They have 2
Posted on 5/21/13 at 12:36 pm to CP3LSU25
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CP3LSU25
You go ahead and not count it then. See if we care.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 12:39 pm to CP3LSU25
It wasn't a mulligan. The BCS wanted to crown the rightful champion. They saw that LSU was weak sauce.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 12:45 pm to Teague
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Those statistics only work if the 3 peat hasn't started. Once 2 of the 3 years are completed, it's only handicapping the odds of winning it 1 year (with a few intangibles thrown in). So, Bama's odds of winning it this year are basically the same as they were in winning it either of the last two years, individually.
You make a decent point, but you fail to factor-in the size of the bullseye on Bama's backside this year and the accompanying pressure that they will feel going for a three-peat.
And each season holds it's own preseason odds based upon various factors such as SOS, returning players at key positions, experience, coaching, etc. Bama lost a lot along the OLine, that in and of itself would drop their odds before taking anything else into consideration. You don't lose a school-record nine players to the NFL without it having some negative effect on you, especially early in the season.
Three-peating in college football is next to impossible, BUT if anyone is capable of pulling-it-off then probably Bama has the best chance by far - simply because, yes, they've already got the first two. Still, the odds are astronomical, they have to be.
3:1 for Bama on the futures by the off-shore oddsmakers LINK does not do the difficulty of the task at hand justice. LINK
Posted on 5/21/13 at 1:13 pm to scrooster
Those are the intangibles I mentioned. I was strictly speaking mathematically, if all things were equal, the odds would be the same this year as last.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 3:15 pm to GeauxLSU4
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During the last 2 years, bama has depended on other teams losing late in the year to get into the title game. That won't keep happening
I agree with you, more often than not 2011 and 2012 would not have been title years. So Alabama could easily be 4 years removed from a title.... so it's time, once again for Bama to win another UNDEFEATED national championship.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 3:21 pm to Lordofwrath88
Complacency is the biggest enemy. There are several teams out there with the capability of winning it all. They have the added advantage of being hungrier.
That's why it's tough to repeat, or threepeat, or whatever. And the fact that Bama stayed focused last year doesn't guarantee that it will happen again this year. And even if it does, there are some tough teams out there with motivation.
As a fan, I will expect Bama to win it all unless we get to a point that it's hopeless. But that's not the way to bet.
That's why it's tough to repeat, or threepeat, or whatever. And the fact that Bama stayed focused last year doesn't guarantee that it will happen again this year. And even if it does, there are some tough teams out there with motivation.
As a fan, I will expect Bama to win it all unless we get to a point that it's hopeless. But that's not the way to bet.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 4:46 pm to Big Kat
ZERO. Won't happen. They lost their whole O-line and half their defense. Bama will lose 3 games this year. I said it first. LSU, aTm, and yes....Ole Miss.
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