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Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:01 pm to Gordy
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Clemson will become another Arkansas, Kentucky, Ole Miss. You had an advantage being in the ACC but that will be nullified once you join the SEC. Arkansas will be fine because we have an overall sports pedigree that we will continue to
dominate in baseball, track,basketball and football.
you had me up until here.
This post was edited on 7/7/22 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:03 pm to MrAUTigers
I did have to edit. We will be fine in Basketball, baseball and track. Football we will be ok.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:05 pm to Gordy
everybody is going to win less if CLemson, FSU, etc moves to the ACC along with Texas and Oklahoma. It is mutually assured destruction to boost the schedule strengh so high the playoff committee will take multiple SEC teams.
This post was edited on 7/7/22 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:06 pm to Tillman
quote:Basketball natty was far from a fluke. We were brought to the SEC to challenge Kentucky because no one else could do it. You might want to look up our history in basketball before you talk shite. Also we just went back-to-back Elite Eights..Plus you probably didn't realize that we just brought in one of the top classes in basketball that will challenge for a title again
the national title in basketball has been awhile and probably was bit of a fluke.
This post was edited on 7/7/22 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:07 pm to Tillman
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everybody is going to win less if CLemson, FSU, etc moves to the ACC.
They're already in the ACC you dumb bastard.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:08 pm to Gordy
Arkansas is a cool state for outdoor stuff but doesn't really seem like a basketball state.
having some solid teams every now and again is different from dominating.
having some solid teams every now and again is different from dominating.
This post was edited on 7/7/22 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:09 pm to Tillman
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i don't understand the sustained success point given Clemson has the most ACC titles and 3 national titles. how many programs can point to that kind of success.
Because I explicitly said this was about a Clemson without Dabo, which historically had one title and very little sustained success.
And I guarantee you nobody counts ACC titles as much more than cracker jack prizes.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:09 pm to Tillman
quote:Please provide your reasoning for this dumbass statement...
Arkansas is a cool state for outdoor stuff but doesn't really seem like a basketball state.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:10 pm to jonnyanony
my response was now that Clemson has more national titles and ACC titles, the floor should be higher.
it isn't like Clemson can't hire other good coaches given what they pay Dabo and his staff.
your comment doesn't make sense given many programs in the SEC have not had success like Clemson at any point.
it isn't like Clemson can't hire other good coaches given what they pay Dabo and his staff.
your comment doesn't make sense given many programs in the SEC have not had success like Clemson at any point.
This post was edited on 7/7/22 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:11 pm to Tillman
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my response was now that Clemson has more national titles and ACC titles, the floor should be higher.
Given those were all under Dabo it seems like you missed the point.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:13 pm to jonnyanony
So you expect Duke and UNC to fall off in basketball with different coaches? lol
it's possible but not a great prediction
i've seen several sports pundits refer to Clemson as a blueblood program this past week in the discussions about expansion.
Clemson's last two playoff losses were as bad as it gets. I believe it is probable those teams do better in those games with different coaches. They should have been more competitive. Dabo is a good coach but people seem to ignore his really bad losses because of the two natties.
it's possible but not a great prediction
i've seen several sports pundits refer to Clemson as a blueblood program this past week in the discussions about expansion.
Clemson's last two playoff losses were as bad as it gets. I believe it is probable those teams do better in those games with different coaches. They should have been more competitive. Dabo is a good coach but people seem to ignore his really bad losses because of the two natties.
This post was edited on 7/7/22 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:13 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Clemson would be another guaranteed loss for Arky, so I can see your reasoning.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:15 pm to Tillman
quote:this coming from a school who's biggest highlight in basketball is just the elite eight.. for reference here is our accolades in basketball.. let me know how you compare..
Arkansas is a cool state for outdoor stuff but doesn't really seem like a basketball state.
National Champions: 1 (1994)
National Runner up: 1 (1995)
Final Four Appearances: 6 (1941, 1945, 1978, 1994, 1995)
Elite Eight Appearances: 11 (1941, 1945, 1949, 1978, 1979, 1990, 1991, 1994, 1995, 2021, 2022)
Sweet Sixteen Appearances: 13 (1941, 1945, 1949, 1978, 1979, 1990, 1991, 1994, 1995, 2021, 2022, 1978, 1979, 1981, 1983, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 2021, 2022)
NCAA Tournament Appearances: 34 (1941, 1945, 1949, 1958, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2015, 2017, 2018, 2021, 2022)
NCAAT Overall Record: 48-34
NIT Championships: 0
NIT Appearances: 4 (1987, 1997, 2014, 2019)
NIT Overall Record: 6-5
This post was edited on 7/7/22 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:20 pm to Gordy
your last natty and natty appearance are pushing 30 years ago now.
Arkansas is solid in basketball but a stretch to call it dominant.
HOw many SEC titles has it won in the past 20 years? It seems like Kentucky and Florida have been the most consistent SEC programs in bbal.
Arkansas is solid in basketball but a stretch to call it dominant.
HOw many SEC titles has it won in the past 20 years? It seems like Kentucky and Florida have been the most consistent SEC programs in bbal.
This post was edited on 7/7/22 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:21 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
That’s a great argument. I’m a NO!
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:22 pm to Tillman
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So you expect Duke and UNC to fall off in basketball with different coaches? lol
Do you really feel like this Clemson football run is in any way comparable to those?
Those programs are the Alabama/Ohio State of basketball.
This post was edited on 7/7/22 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:24 pm to jonnyanony
have Duke or UNC been in the Final 4 6 years in a row like Clemson in football?
Despite all the talent coach K has had, he's only won one national title in the past 12 seasons or so. He couldn't even win with Zion. lol
Despite all the talent coach K has had, he's only won one national title in the past 12 seasons or so. He couldn't even win with Zion. lol
This post was edited on 7/7/22 at 10:26 pm
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:25 pm to Tillman
quote:Oh here we go... Conference titles in basketball might as well be Little League... They are as worthless as a turd covered in gold. Only teams that suck arse in basketball talk about conference titles. But if you think you are better than us in basketball please prove it to me by your accolades
HOw many SEC titles
This post was edited on 7/7/22 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:26 pm to Tillman
Again, under the one coach that has any consistent success. Which is my entire point.
I'm saying "what does Clemson become after Dabo?" and your response is "Dabo is good!!"
I'm saying "what does Clemson become after Dabo?" and your response is "Dabo is good!!"
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