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re: No one wants Clemson
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:04 pm to Tillman
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:04 pm to Tillman
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It is possible the SEC champ could rotate between Oklahoma, Texas, Clemson, FSU, etc for several years in a row
4 titles combined this century?
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Could Bama, Auburn, LSU, UGA, Florida fans live with that.
13 titles combined this century? Maybe 14?
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Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:04 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
The SEC has enough schools.Let other conferences get stronger so they can beat up on each other like the SEC has had to do for years.We don’t need any more teams the scheduling will already be a cluster frick when Texas an OU start
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:06 pm to Tillman
You really don’t understand the relative strength of a SEC schedule compared to acc. The SEC is a meat grinder clempson won’t survive
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:11 pm to MEd LSU
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You really don’t understand the relative strength of a SEC schedule compared to acc. The SEC is a meat grinder clempson won’t survive
Exactly...no more coasting through a conference schedule full of Wake Forest's. (terrifying to think about huh Aggy)
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:11 pm to NWLATigerFan12
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4 titles combined this century?
you are underestimating how the SEC hype helps recruiting that these newcomers will also benefit from...
Alabama, LSU and Florida have the bulk of the SEC titles. I don't think you going to see Saban's type dynasties in a stacked SEC.
This post was edited on 7/7/22 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:12 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
We already have Auburn. Auburn is Clemson minus the lake but with a better pre-game show.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:13 pm to Oilfieldbiology
The problem with Clemson is I think it's reasonable to wonder if they have the support to keep up success if Dabo leaves.
Was this just their flash in the pan era and a conference will be left holding the wet paper bag that is most of Clemson's history?
Was this just their flash in the pan era and a conference will be left holding the wet paper bag that is most of Clemson's history?
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:13 pm to viceman
Clemson and Auburn don't look the same in my view. Completely different settings and campus setups.
how can a college near the blue ridge be like one in the plains of Alabama.
Auburn's campus is on a street grid similar to U of SC. Clemson is on a former plantation.
how can a college near the blue ridge be like one in the plains of Alabama.
Auburn's campus is on a street grid similar to U of SC. Clemson is on a former plantation.
This post was edited on 7/7/22 at 9:17 pm
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:14 pm to Tillman
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I don't think you going to see Saban's type dynasties in a stacked SEC.
This is my hope for college football. We drop the directional schools and conferences, enact some fairness rules and let the coaches and players determine who wins.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:17 pm to jonnyanony
Clemson was one of the top programs in the 1980s and won a title. It was a solid program under Frank Howard as well.
it is not likely a program in the south that has won 3 titles is not going to be a solid program most seasons.
but your comment is kind of odd given Florida's struggles and rapid coaching changes the past 10 years. Are you making a case Florida should get the boot? lol
it is not likely a program in the south that has won 3 titles is not going to be a solid program most seasons.
but your comment is kind of odd given Florida's struggles and rapid coaching changes the past 10 years. Are you making a case Florida should get the boot? lol
This post was edited on 7/7/22 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:20 pm to Tillman
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Clemson was one of the top programs in the 1980s and won a title.
1981, a few 10 win seasons in the 80s and the rest 5-8 win seasons isn't premiere program stuff.
They had some good teams but no real consistent success until Dabo.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:20 pm to Tillman
In the bcs and cfp era 6 different SEC teams have won the national championships in an already stacked conference. Clempson would be a minnow in an ocean. Better go big10 to have any chance to be relevant
This post was edited on 7/7/22 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:21 pm to Tillman
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but your comment is kind of odd given Florida's struggles and rapid coaching changes the past 10 years. Are you making a case Florida should get the boot? lol
Nobody here is talking about "getting the boot," though. We're talking pick of the litter.
Florida is absolutely a program with a Clemson like history until the 1980s, but then had like 20 years averaging 10 wins a season and three national titles.
If Clemson had won titles with multiple coaches and had that sustained a period of success this wouldn't be in my mind.
This post was edited on 7/7/22 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:23 pm to jonnyanony
Clemson has won national titles with 2 coaches, same as Florida.
Clemson had the 5th highest win percentage in the 1980s for teams that played over 100 games. LINK
It beat Nebraska for it first national title. Nebraska had the highest win percentage that decade.
Clemson had the 5th highest win percentage in the 1980s for teams that played over 100 games. LINK
It beat Nebraska for it first national title. Nebraska had the highest win percentage that decade.
This post was edited on 7/7/22 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:28 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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Harry Rex Vonner
Didn’t read. Voted down.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:30 pm to MEd LSU
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. Better go big10 to have any chance to be relevant
or just stick with the ACC. Playoff expansion is guaranteed now.
got to think we will be seeing SEC and BIg 10 champs with 3 plus losses. It would be hard to keep Clemson out of an expanded playoff if they are undefeated , one loss, or perhaps two losses some seasons.
Strategically, moving to a stacked conference is a bad move if the goal is to win titles. Clemson has proven it can recruit without being in the SEC or Big 10.
The playoff committee won't be able to get away with favoring two conferences for playoff spots for long. There has to be equal opportunity or it is a monopoly.
This post was edited on 7/7/22 at 9:37 pm
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:45 pm to Tillman
Yeah I said you had some good years in the 80s but no sustained success. Thank you for agreeing I guess
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:50 pm to jonnyanony
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Yeah I said you had some good years in the 80s but no sustained success. Thank you for agreeing I guess
i don't understand the sustained success point given Clemson has the most ACC titles and 3 national titles. how many programs can point to that kind of success.
every program has ups and downs but CLemson down periods aren't likely to be long given its history at this point.
This post was edited on 7/7/22 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:50 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Actually yes most of us do want them
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:54 pm to Tillman
quote:Clemson will become another Arkansas, Kentucky, Ole Miss. You had an advantage being in the ACC but that will be nullified once you join the SEC. Arkansas will be fine because we have an overall sports pedigree that we will continue to dominate in baseball, track and basketball . Most of these teams coming from the ACC will have a rude awakening. Arkansas will benefit from Texas and Oklahoma joining the SEC as these will become natural rivals. Clemson will now have to battle against South Carolina and the Florida schools oh and let's not for forget about Bama moving East and Georgia becoming a national power again.
think about programs like Arky, Kentucky, Ole Miss, Ms State, SC .... they couldn't break through before this expansion, how do they have a shot in a super stacked conference.
This post was edited on 7/7/22 at 10:01 pm
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