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re: Nine-game football slate draws detractors (Destin draws near)
Posted on 5/21/13 at 8:58 pm to meansonny
Posted on 5/21/13 at 8:58 pm to meansonny
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The only strength of schedule that matters is at the top.
And that's what the conference championship game is for.
It's for pitting #1 in the West against #1 in the East.
It usually makes for a great game and great TV.
And making the CCG into a rematch with 2 teams lessens the TV ratings and lessens the strength of schedule if the winner of the first matchup repeats (ie. Auburn in 2004 when they beat Tennessee twice adn was left out of the NCG).
You make a very decent point with that argument.
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:23 pm to scrooster
What happens if the all the schools , sans UGA, AU, UA, UT, propose you have 2 options...
1. 9 conference games
Or
2. No permanent rivals
1. 9 conference games
Or
2. No permanent rivals
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:29 pm to 3rddownonthe8
I still dont see what is wrong with moving Bama and Auburn to the East (Vandy and Missouri to the West) and scrapping the cross division rivalries altogether.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:32 pm to meansonny
Because then Alabama couldn't avoid the top teams from the East? 
This post was edited on 5/21/13 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:33 pm to IAmReality
Do at least one of the following 2:
Go to 9 conference games
Get rid of all permanent rivals except Bama/UT and AU/UGA
The status quo is playing 1 floating cross-division team per year, and not getting the return trip with that opponent for 7 seasons
Go to 9 conference games
Get rid of all permanent rivals except Bama/UT and AU/UGA
The status quo is playing 1 floating cross-division team per year, and not getting the return trip with that opponent for 7 seasons
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:38 pm to texasaggie08
Why does everyone care about 7 season return trips? that's still 2 games in 6 years.
And this wasnt even an issue when we only had 10 teams (no one cried on a message board when uga didnt play lsu for 2 decades)
It is a "made up" issue.
If you are good enough to represent the West, then you are guaranteed to play the only team from the East that matters in the game that matters.
And this wasnt even an issue when we only had 10 teams (no one cried on a message board when uga didnt play lsu for 2 decades)
It is a "made up" issue.
If you are good enough to represent the West, then you are guaranteed to play the only team from the East that matters in the game that matters.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:00 pm to meansonny
LMFAO...the hell Bama would raise would stop the earth's rotation.
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I still dont see what is wrong with moving Bama and Auburn to the East (Vandy and Missouri to the West) and scrapping the cross division rivalries altogether.
This post was edited on 5/21/13 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:32 pm to sdmlsu1
Everyone from the same division should play the same conference teams.
When you add garbage like Mizzou to the conference you have basically said you could give two shits about historic rivalries...blah, blah, blah.
It is dumb that anyone defends a Vandy win the same as a FL win or loss
When you add garbage like Mizzou to the conference you have basically said you could give two shits about historic rivalries...blah, blah, blah.
It is dumb that anyone defends a Vandy win the same as a FL win or loss
Posted on 5/22/13 at 5:26 am to tigerfoot
My question was, basically what's more important to the presidents, ADs, & coaches, retaining the traditional rivalries or staying at 8 games to allow flexibility in scheduling? Which one will be sacrificed first?
Not really interested in what would be other options. For the sake of discussion these are the only options, which one I'd more important ?
Not really interested in what would be other options. For the sake of discussion these are the only options, which one I'd more important ?
Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:32 am to meansonny
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what is wrong with moving Bama and Auburn to the East (Vandy and Missouri to the West)
So let me get this straight, you want to see an SEC West that looks like:
LSU
Ole Miss
State
Arky
A&M
Mizzou
Vandy
?
I see this all the time here, it looks to me like people wanting to basically kick LSU out of the SouthEASTERN conference and put them in the Big SWC.
Why is everyone so scared to have LSU in their division?
Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:47 am to 3rddownonthe8
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My question was, basically what's more important to the presidents, ADs, & coaches, retaining the traditional rivalries or staying at 8 games to allow flexibility in scheduling? Which one will be sacrificed first?
Money is the most important. First off I am going to show my line of thinking based on permanent cross division opponents no going away. The biggest opponents to nine games seems to be UGA/Florida. USC is too irrelevant to care about what they think. Question being is losing a Half home game to UGA and Florida on average worth being able to play the SEC West twice as fast. Will doubling the amount of times Alabama/Auburn/A&M/Arky travel to Florida make up for their half a home game against a double directional? I think it will. I think at the end of the day, intriguing games bring in the most revenue in the long run.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 9:15 am to IAmReality
SEC and ACC should just get a schedule alliance. Keep 8 games for each conference but have one game alliance. Permanent games for the alliance would include the rival games, clemson-south carolina but than rotate the school's that don't have their big rivals in the acc so you could see UVa- Bama, hogs-Unc, LSU- V Tech rotated.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:19 am to TeLeFaWx
What are you talking about. It's got nothing to go with the WLOCP. UGA & UF are in the same division.
The rivalries that are issue are BAMA / UT & The Deep South's Oldest Rivalry.
The 9 game issue is while UGA, USC, UF, UK, & VU all have ACC rivalry games, the other 9 do not have 1
The rivalries that are issue are BAMA / UT & The Deep South's Oldest Rivalry.
The 9 game issue is while UGA, USC, UF, UK, & VU all have ACC rivalry games, the other 9 do not have 1
Posted on 5/22/13 at 5:41 pm to 3rddownonthe8
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What are you talking about. It's got nothing to go with the WLOCP. UGA & UF are in the same division. The rivalries that are issue are BAMA / UT & The Deep South's Oldest Rivalry. The 9 game issue is while UGA, USC, UF, UK, & VU all have ACC rivalry games, the other 9 do not have 1
But they are the only ones with a neutral site game as well.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 6:43 pm to TeLeFaWx
Aren't y'all doing a neutral setup with Arkansas over the next few years? Make it permanent.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 9:39 pm to TeLeFaWx
That will never change though. It's not like your really giving up a home game.
The swamp seats 88,500+ , while Sanford seats 92,700+.
The WLOCP has a sold out attendance of 84,500+. So it is basically a wash on the gate , either all every other year of half every year. The biggest reason for having it in Jacksonville , is it brings the 2 schools most heavily followed right into south Ga and north Florida , it is a huge deal for recruiting, and it is a incredible boost for the economy of these areas. The loss of this game would hurt a significant amount of the support for the 2 schools located in the Savsnnah-SSI-Jax area. I don't think either schools board of regents would allow changes to the game no matter how much some fans ( UGA local Athens, Atlanta fans) complain about it. All aspects of this game is woven into the fabric of this rivalry and into the culture of south ga and north Florida.
For me bring from a house divided (UGA-AU) , if given the choice of moving the WLOCP permanently to campuses , or having the Deep South Rivaly go to non yearly status , I would take discontinuing the latter every time , most fans from south Ga would agree, I believe.
The swamp seats 88,500+ , while Sanford seats 92,700+.
The WLOCP has a sold out attendance of 84,500+. So it is basically a wash on the gate , either all every other year of half every year. The biggest reason for having it in Jacksonville , is it brings the 2 schools most heavily followed right into south Ga and north Florida , it is a huge deal for recruiting, and it is a incredible boost for the economy of these areas. The loss of this game would hurt a significant amount of the support for the 2 schools located in the Savsnnah-SSI-Jax area. I don't think either schools board of regents would allow changes to the game no matter how much some fans ( UGA local Athens, Atlanta fans) complain about it. All aspects of this game is woven into the fabric of this rivalry and into the culture of south ga and north Florida.
For me bring from a house divided (UGA-AU) , if given the choice of moving the WLOCP permanently to campuses , or having the Deep South Rivaly go to non yearly status , I would take discontinuing the latter every time , most fans from south Ga would agree, I believe.
This post was edited on 5/22/13 at 9:42 pm
Posted on 5/22/13 at 9:46 pm to texasaggie08
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Get rid of all permanent rivals except Bama/UT and AU/UGA
Absofrickinglootly not.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 9:48 pm to jb4
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SEC and ACC should just get a schedule alliance. Keep 8 games for each conference but have one game alliance. Permanent games for the alliance would include the rival games, clemson-south carolina but than rotate the school's that don't have their big rivals in the acc so you could see UVa- Bama, hogs-Unc, LSU- V Tech rotated.
No can do because that would screw with the bowl games like the Chick-fil-a and the new bowl in Charlotte that is about to do a SEC-ACC alliance. Plus, isn't the Music City already SEC-ACC committed?
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