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Posted on 12/27/12 at 6:35 pm to MagillaGuerilla
So your saying he never signed the contract or the rule isn't on the books?
Posted on 12/27/12 at 6:45 pm to HottyToddy7
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So your saying he never signed the contract or the rule isn't on the books?
No, he certainly could have. Look at how it's worded to be though:
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When Hill knowingly or unknowingly signed with SEC financial aid agreement with Alabama earlier this month
They're putting doubt to Bama doing it honestly. Why can it be after he told them he was committing, they asked him to sign some papers in regards to his upcoming early enrollment? He most certainly had a guardian with him, so that's at least 2 people to read what he signed.
If he was going to Bama regardless as he said he was, which you can speculate on if you want, why does it truly mean anything?
Posted on 12/27/12 at 6:45 pm to HottyToddy7
He signed the exact same "contract" that every high school recruit signs on or after NSD.
This is all much ado about nothing. Ole Miss failed to have Hill sign the SEC GIA when he committed to them because they didn't realize that prep school players could sign it before enrolling at the 4 year institution. When he flipped back to Bama, Bama had him sign the SEC GIA.
The only thing that could possibly construed as shady is the allegation that Hill didn't know what he was signing and that's a claim that has not been verified.
This is all much ado about nothing. Ole Miss failed to have Hill sign the SEC GIA when he committed to them because they didn't realize that prep school players could sign it before enrolling at the 4 year institution. When he flipped back to Bama, Bama had him sign the SEC GIA.
The only thing that could possibly construed as shady is the allegation that Hill didn't know what he was signing and that's a claim that has not been verified.
Posted on 12/27/12 at 6:51 pm to MagillaGuerilla
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They're putting doubt to Bama doing it honestly. Why can it be after he told them he was committing, they asked him to sign some papers in regards to his upcoming early enrollment? He most certainly had a guardian with him, so that's at least 2 people to read what he signed.
No, said contract was signed last February upon being placed at Hargrave by Alabama.
Posted on 12/27/12 at 6:57 pm to HottyToddy7
Article says:
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Ole Miss was ordered to stop recruiting Hill by its compliance office after it was revealed he had signed an SEC financial aid agreement with Alabama earlier this month, according to the Clarion-Ledger’s Hugh Kellenberger
Posted on 12/27/12 at 6:58 pm to MagillaGuerilla
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They're putting doubt to Bama doing it honestly.
No.
They're saying that a young student athlete just out of high school often doesn't read the fine print. They often just sign. They change their minds all the time.
Maybe because I don't have crimson colored glasses on, that's how I read it.
That's not putting doubt on Bama at all. That's saying young student athletes often don't read shite and change their minds at the drop of a hat.
I seriously doubt said prospect had his lawyer review the document and deeply pondered the consequences of signing said document.
But regardless, it doesn't matter. If he signed it, it's over and done with. Unless someone can prove something nefarious went down. Which I think is less likely than me winning the Powerball.
Posted on 12/27/12 at 6:59 pm to sarc
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The only thing that could possibly construed as shady is the allegation that Hill didn't know what he was signing and that's a claim that has not been verified.
Actually, it has been proven he knew exactly what he was signing and he wanted to sign it. The AJC article is a complete sham BS attempt to bad mouth Saban.
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“I signed with Alabama coming out of high school and it was where I wanted to go from the start. I had a heart-to-heart to talk with my mother when I committed to Ole Miss. Then, we had another heart-to-heart talk and I told her this is my dream and I want to live out my life to the fullest and go with Alabama,” said Hill.
“I’m getting to Alabama on January 7. I signed a financial aid agreement. I’m planning on getting with Coach Cochran and getting down to size real quick. A lot of people talk about my weight but I don’t think everyone understands the weight I can play with. At my old high school, I played at 365 and was moving well. At prep school, I played at 380 and was still moving well.
Posted on 12/27/12 at 7:00 pm to MagillaGuerilla
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quote: Ole Miss was ordered to stop recruiting Hill by its compliance office after it was revealed he had signed an SEC financial aid agreement with Alabama earlier this month, according to the Clarion-Ledger’s Hugh Kellenberger
Yes, they learned about it earlier this month and appealed it and lost. He signed it last February when he was placed.
He signed his FAA last week when the appeal was lost. Y'all are getting the timetable and what he signed confused.
This post was edited on 12/27/12 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 12/27/12 at 7:01 pm to BrerTiger
Ask yourself, "who is calling foul in this situation?"
Is it Hill or is it an Ole Miss beat writer?
Is it Hill or is it an Ole Miss beat writer?
Posted on 12/27/12 at 7:01 pm to BrerTiger
No.
They are absolutely trying to slam Alabama. Hill knew exactly what he was signing. This is the AJC....a complete joke of a news source.
They are absolutely trying to slam Alabama. Hill knew exactly what he was signing. This is the AJC....a complete joke of a news source.
Posted on 12/27/12 at 7:04 pm to BrerTiger
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No.
They're saying that a young student athlete just out of high school often doesn't read the fine print. They often just sign. They change their minds all the time.
Maybe because I don't have crimson colored glasses on, that's how I read it.
Do you see the thread title? Some are gonna treat it like Bama did something wrong, when it's actually commonplace for these agreements to be signed. Every other recruit, who may or may not know what they signed, don't get a story written about them. Yeah it's a unique circumstance due to it being the same conference, but still.
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I seriously doubt said prospect had his lawyer review the document and deeply pondered the consequences of signing said document.
I'm not saying a lawyer was there, but a coach or parent was. And if it was done at Hargrave, it was done most likely under the head coach, who should have previous knowledge of this agreement/contract.
Posted on 12/27/12 at 7:06 pm to HottyToddy7
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Yes, they learned about it earlier this month and appealed it and lost. He signed it last February when he was placed.
You realize that the GIA he signed last February was voided when he was ineligible to attend classes at Bama on the first day of fall classes, right? Those documents would not stop him from being recruited by other SEC schools because they were voided.
All the new discussion is over the fact that Bama had him sign new SEC GIA papers on his official visit earlier this month.
Posted on 12/27/12 at 7:06 pm to MagillaGuerilla
The issue is Hill didn't know he was signing a contract that wouldn't let him go anywhere in the SEC besides Alabama in this recruiting cycle.
When OM was notified by the Alabama compliance department, they appealed the contract and lost.
Hill then re committed to Alabama and signed his Financial Aid Agreement papers.
When OM was notified by the Alabama compliance department, they appealed the contract and lost.
Hill then re committed to Alabama and signed his Financial Aid Agreement papers.
This post was edited on 12/27/12 at 7:08 pm
Posted on 12/27/12 at 7:07 pm to sarc
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Ask yourself, "who is calling foul in this situation?"
Is it Hill or is it an Ole Miss beat writer?
How is the Ole Miss beat writer crying foul by reporting that a recruit flipped to Bama and signed an agreement with Bama?
What part of his report was "crying foul"?
I don't have crimson colored glasses on so I don't automatically assume all reporters are out to slam Bama.
Posted on 12/27/12 at 7:08 pm to sarc
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You realize that the GIA he signed last February was voided when he was ineligible to attend classes at Bama on the first day of fall classes, right? Those documents would not stop him from being recruited by other SEC schools because they were voided.
No it doesn't with this new prep school rules. This is the whole issue.
Posted on 12/27/12 at 7:09 pm to HottyToddy7
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The issue is Hill didn't know he was signing a contract that wouldn't let him go anywhere in the SEC besides Alabama in this recruiting cycle.
Has Hill actually said he didn't know what he was signing?
Did I miss those quotes from Hill?
It's one thing to speculate whether he knew or not. Certainly many young people don't look too closely at what they sign. But it's quite another to say with certainty that he did know or didn't know what he was signing.
Posted on 12/27/12 at 7:09 pm to HottyToddy7
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The issue is Hill didn't know he was signing a contract that wouldn't let him go anywhere in the SEC besides Alabama in this recruiting cycle.
When OM was notified by the Alabama compliance department, they appealed the contract and lost.
Hill then re committed to Alabama and signed his Financial Aid Agreement papers.
You understand this argument hinges on the assumption that Alabama and Saban would have to lie to convince someone to come here?
How dumb and irrational is that?
Why would Saban trick someone to coming here, just to see them transfer in a year?
It's retarded logic.
Posted on 12/27/12 at 7:10 pm to BrerTiger
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Has Hill actually said he didn't know what he was signing?
Hill has said he knew exactly what he was signing.
Posted on 12/27/12 at 7:11 pm to FlukerFlakes
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Hill has said he knew exactly what he was signing.
Solid sourcing.
Great quoting.
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