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Tiger_Claw
Missouri Fan
Little Rock, AR
Member since Nov 2013
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NET Rankings Are Broken:

Mizzou is 3-5 in Quad 1 games. Kentucky is 1-6.

Mizzou beat Kentucky head-to-head.

Mizzou has beaten 4 ranked teams. Kentucky just 1.

UK at 35 and Mizzou at 46 does not make sense. NET Rankings are rigged/crock.



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diddlydawg7
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re: NET Rankings Are Broken:
That win over Tennessee is probably doing a lot of work for them


koreandawg
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re: NET Rankings Are Broken:
YOu forgot to factor in the blueblood bump.


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Porker Face
Arkansas Fan
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re: NET Rankings Are Broken:
Yeah but Missouri sucks


Tiger_Claw
Missouri Fan
Little Rock, AR
Member since Nov 2013
4266 posts

re: NET Rankings Are Broken:
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That win over Tennessee is probably doing a lot of work for them


It's the only thing that makes sense. Unless SOS and NCSOS are weighted heavily in the algorithm too. Though, we're not talking huge differences there either.

Missouri:
RPI sos 58, ncsos 162
KenPom sos 72, ncsos 289
KenPom 49
Net 46

Kentucky:
RPI sos 50, ncsos 125,
KenPom sos 69, ncsos 186
KenPom 34
Net 35


Tiger_Claw
Missouri Fan
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re: NET Rankings Are Broken:
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Yeah but Missouri sucks


Ahh, it's good to see you this morning Porker. M-I-Z buddy.


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RamboMizzou
Missouri Fan
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re: NET Rankings Are Broken:
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Porker Face


Look who showed his face this morning.

You little bitch.


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RandySavage
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re: NET Rankings Are Broken:
You're going to upset a lot of nerds.


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The Sultan of Swine
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re: NET Rankings Are Broken:
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Missouri: RPI sos 58, ncsos 162 KenPom sos 72, ncsos 289 KenPom 49 Net 46 Kentucky: RPI sos 50, ncsos 125, KenPom sos 69, ncsos 186 KenPom 34 Net 35


Looks like Kentucky is slightly better in all those metrics so it’s not that strange

There are probably a lot of closely scored teams in that 35-46 Net range


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Robot Santa
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re: NET Rankings Are Broken:
NET definitely has some issues. UConn was the best team in the country in non-conference but has totally fallen apart in Big East play and they are still top 10 in NET. For whatever reason it's just really difficult to generate much movement in your NET ranking past a certain point in the season, for better or worse.


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SummerOfGeorge
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re: NET Rankings Are Broken:
Agreed. NET sucks.


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bigDgator
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re: NET Rankings Are Broken:
I understand the premise of the NET, but I agree it still seems like it doesn't work well. Luckily basketball doesn't just tap the top 4 teams for the post season playoff. So for the most part, if you don't get in, it is your own fault. Especially if you are a P5 team.
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Allthatfades
Mississippi
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re: NET Rankings Are Broken:
How is Arkansas 28?


Jalbow3
UAB Fan
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re: NET Rankings Are Broken:
It looks like Alabama should be ahead of Tennessee and Auburn should be higher also.


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skrayper
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re: NET Rankings Are Broken:
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Mizzou is 3-5 in Quad 1 games. Kentucky is 1-6.

Mizzou beat Kentucky head-to-head.

Mizzou has beaten 4 ranked teams. Kentucky just 1.

UK at 35 and Mizzou at 46 does not make sense. NET Rankings are rigged/crock.


You can compare Alabama's resume to Tennessee's as well and presume that Alabama should be higher.

Alabama has 1 fewer loss, and no losses below Q1; Tennessee has 2 Q2 losses.

Alabama has more Q1 wins as well, and they have an identical Q1 winning %.

Tennessee has played 2 more Q3/Q4 games than Alabama; Alabama's SOS is significantly higher than Tennessee.

Does any of this mean that Alabama is better than Tennessee? No.

Does Alabama have the better resume? Significantly so.


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kczoutiger
Missouri Fan
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re: NET Rankings Are Broken:
NET, along with Kenpom all use predictive metrics that rank the teams. Its just a tool, not definitive rankings of outcomes.


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colbycovington
Louisiana Tech Fan
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re: NET Rankings Are Broken:
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How is Arkansas 28?


SOR
4 3-point losses away from home.
Decent NC wins.
Adj D efficiency.

Also have a high point differential in the wins.
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CoachDon
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re: NET Rankings Are Broken:
....ALWAYS RENT FREE LIVING....

FEELS GOOOOOOOOOOOOD

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Al Bundy Bulldog
Mississippi St. Fan
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re: NET Rankings Are Broken:
Won’t matter much after Missouri loses to Mississippi State in Starkville tomorrow


CelticTiger
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re: NET Rankings Are Broken:
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....ALWAYS RENT FREE LIVING....



I don't think the impetus for the OP's post was KY envy, I think he was just using the illogic of the two to make a point.

I agree with the Bama poster who pointed out that the rankings seem flawed between Bama and Tenner as well.


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