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NCAA's Day of Reckoning
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:23 pm
Finally .... the NCAA will be held accountable ...
It's about time.
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"The NCAA is not above the law," Kavanaugh wrote. "The NCAA couches its arguments for not paying student athletes in innocuous labels. But the labels cannot disguise the reality: The NCAA's business model would be flatly illegal in almost any other industry in America."
It's about time.
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Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:25 pm to Rogelio
Kavanaugh is just trying to atone for all of his college gang rapes.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:30 pm to Rogelio
It's quite simple. You make it so the athletes now have to pay their way through school and give them a lump sum up front that matches what the scholarship is worth.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:32 pm to deeprig9
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Kavanaugh is just trying to atone for all of his college gang rapes.
If you believe one word of those bogus claims, you're among the stupidest human beings to ever live. I hope for your sake that was an attempt at a joke. If not, I've wasted my time because you're too stupid to read what I've written.
Avenatti says Hi from prison.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:33 pm to Rogelio
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It's about time.
You're happy about this? College football, in particular, will not be anything like you are used to seeing. All the five stars will go to the highest bidder and all others will be jaded because they don't get top pay. Small schools will be relegated to basically intramural sports.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:33 pm to RollTide1987
Baseball has minor leagues
Basketball is headed that way with g league
Football could easily fund a minor league
Let's see what college football becomes if the NFL changes course
Basketball is headed that way with g league
Football could easily fund a minor league
Let's see what college football becomes if the NFL changes course
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:36 pm to RollTide1987
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It's quite simple. You make it so the athletes now have to pay their way through school and give them a lump sum up front that matches what the scholarship is worth.
I think that is part of it, but where does the money that the school makes off of an athlete's likeness come into play and how does Title IX tie into that???
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:36 pm to Rogelio
This shite is so wild to me. The athletes get to go to school for free, have access to the best facilities, doctors, trainers and meals around. Free room and board. All while getting to show off their skills to NFL / NBA / MLB scouts.
Do people forget that nobody is forcing these student athletes to play? If they felt that it wasn't worth it, they wouldn't do it.
Do people forget that nobody is forcing these student athletes to play? If they felt that it wasn't worth it, they wouldn't do it.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:37 pm to deeprig9
Get it right, will you???
The allegations were from his junior high school days.
The allegations were from his junior high school days.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:37 pm to Rogelio
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It's about time.
Remember this when college football as you know it today doesn't exist in the next decade or so.
Remember to tell all those poor, mostly minority kids how much better off they are now that thousands of them no longer get to go to college for free.
I'm sure they'll enjoy hearing it.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:38 pm to nicholastiger
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Football could easily fund a minor league
Let's see what college football becomes if the NFL changes course
The question is where does the NFL land on this issue and does the NCAA and the schools land on that same side.
Previously the college football system has been advantageous for the NCAA/schools and the NFL....if it stops being such for the NFL then I could easily see what you say happening.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:39 pm to Box Geauxrilla
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This shite is so wild to me. The athletes get to go to school for free, have access to the best facilities, doctors, trainers and meals around. Free room and board. All while getting to show off their skills to NFL / NBA / MLB scouts.
Do people forget that nobody is forcing these student athletes to play? If they felt that it wasn't worth it, they wouldn't do it.
Welcome to this new entitled society. It's been a matter of time for this since the early 2000s.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:39 pm to Box Geauxrilla
Is it true that a player can go to Canadian league right out of high school, get paid, then join NFL draft once eligible 3 years after graduation?
Can they also do this in Europe?
What about all the arena leagues that pop up every couple years?
Are there literally no other options for football players to get paid to play prior to NFL?
What I'm asking is this... is the NCAA truly a monopoly for amateur athletes?
Can they also do this in Europe?
What about all the arena leagues that pop up every couple years?
Are there literally no other options for football players to get paid to play prior to NFL?
What I'm asking is this... is the NCAA truly a monopoly for amateur athletes?
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:43 pm to TinGym
The issue is that when the NCAA adopted all these rules to clean up the sport it did not have the TV money that it was generating in today's market. It was more of a true college student athlete at that time where the payoff came later in being drafted by your professional leagues.
The money has become so large because of the valuable properties that were created with the continued increase in tv revenues.
It's not enough now to say the cost of an education will suffice. They want a bigger piece of the pie or payment for revenue they are generating. But how will colleges continue to fund all of these programs outside of football and basketball with large coaching salaries and the costs of doing business while also paying student athletes more at the same time. Majority of schools struggle to break even.
There are a lot of institutions that can barely pay the bills as it is. If that revenue is steered towards compensating athletes what is going to happen to coaches's salaries, facilities, etc.
The money has become so large because of the valuable properties that were created with the continued increase in tv revenues.
It's not enough now to say the cost of an education will suffice. They want a bigger piece of the pie or payment for revenue they are generating. But how will colleges continue to fund all of these programs outside of football and basketball with large coaching salaries and the costs of doing business while also paying student athletes more at the same time. Majority of schools struggle to break even.
There are a lot of institutions that can barely pay the bills as it is. If that revenue is steered towards compensating athletes what is going to happen to coaches's salaries, facilities, etc.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:49 pm to LSU316
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I think that is part of it, but where does the money that the school makes off of an athlete's likeness come into play and how does Title IX tie into that???
See, people love to talk about the scholarship but they forget other things.
How much do you think a one on one QB class with Dan Mullen would cost you?
Safeties for Kirby?
What about Nick Saban?
Okay, cool, so we've talked about how many millions go into hiring coaching staffs.
What about NFL pipelines? How much do you think those cost? You know that NFL teams pass by certain schools to check kids out, talk to the coaches about it, yeah? Probably a few millions there, too, in value.
What about housing and eating, enough for three to four years? Yeah, it's a lot.
What about the facilities? Florida just built an 85-million dollar standalone complex for athletes. All the maintenance it has for a stadium.
What about the prestige that comes with certain schools, that's been built on generations of prior players and the school?
Here's the thing: people have confused unpaid with uncompensated. The difference between most jobs is that the money that's gained from the football programs in America, that revenue gets shifted to:
Research programs.
Other sports that don't have a giant following.
Maintaining basically a small city for people to study.
So, what's going to end up happening is that we will have the exact same thing all over again: They will remove the money for: Scholarship, room and board, gym membership, counseling (coaching, and there are a lot) and any other benefit that they like to have.
College athletes, even at smaller universities, are actually compensated quite a bit. A free education to play a sport you love with an outside chance to make it to the NFL is a pretty fricking sweet deal that most people would take.
All you have to do is pretend to take college classes, go workout and then go play while enjoying fistful of cash handshakes and having people invite you everywhere and buy everything for you.
People who think the NCAA is just going to fold over are so stupid it hurts.
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:50 pm to Lg
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College football, in particular, will not be anything like you are used to seeing.
All the five stars will go to the highest bidder and all others will be jaded because they don't get top pay.
Small schools will be relegated to basically intramural sports.
Good.
Good.
Good. Very good.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:51 pm to nicholastiger
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But how will colleges continue to fund all of these programs outside of football and basketball
It depends on how the "paying" of the student athlete works.
I think the question is how do the money stacks get split at top tier universities. Also, what is the answer to that question for the next tier of schools an so on and so on.
Ultimately the biggest effects will be felt at the smaller schools starting with the UL/SLU types right down to the Northwestern St and Nicholls St types. If the paying trickles down then those schools will absolutely have to start cutting out athletic programs I'd imagine.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:54 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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People who think the NCAA is just going to fold over are so stupid it hurts.
I'd agree if the NCAA was a well run respected organization...as it is they are more closely run like a corner lemonade stand managed by a 8 yr old.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:55 pm to nicholastiger
Congress can fix this, but it might require the schools to play hardball. If you get enough schools announcing their intention to drop sports, the Title IX advocates might be willing to support some anti-trust legislation which would allow the current model to go on. But, without some relief from Congress, a lot of schools will simply not find it possible to keep fielding teams.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:55 pm to Rogelio
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Good.
Good.
Good. Very good.
So you hate the idea of poor, mostly black kids getting educations most would never be able to afford. Noted.
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 2:56 pm
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