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NCAA rules changes in wake of FBI probe
Posted on 8/8/18 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 8/8/18 at 12:59 pm
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All players who declare for the NBA Draft but go undrafted will have the option to return to their former school.
Elite prospects will now be allowed to have official relationships with agents. This applies to high schoolers and college athletes alike. USA Basketball will be tasked with identifying which prospects in a given class are "elite."
The NCAA is requiring all school presidents, chancellors and athletics staff members to contractually comply with any and all future investigations. This is the NCAA's way of trying to institute a de facto version of subpoena power, which it lacked previously.
School presidents and chancellors will now personally be held accountable by the NCAA for their athletic departments abiding by the rules.
The FBI's case into college basketball brought about mounds of documents of information. Previously, the NCAA did not allow for information and findings from outside investigations at established agencies to be used in its infractions process. Effective immediately, the NCAA and its Committee on Infractions can use information obtained in other probes as a means to an end for its own investigations. This will be implemented immediately by the NCAA with the schools currently caught up in the Department of Justice's case regarding multiple schools and alleged violation of multiple federal laws.
*The recruiting calendar, as detailed here, is getting a major overhaul. In a first, college coaches will be allowed to attend the NBA Players Association Top 100 camp each June. Also, the first live period of July will be attendable for non-scholastic events.
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This post was edited on 8/8/18 at 1:00 pm
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Posted on 8/8/18 at 1:15 pm to Pygthagorean Theorem
College basketball is a complete joke at this point. At least football can pretend to be an amateur league.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 1:18 pm to Pygthagorean Theorem
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Elite prospects will now be allowed to have official relationships with agents. This applies to high schoolers and college athletes alike. USA Basketball will be tasked with identifying which prospects in a given class are "elite."
Yikes
Posted on 8/8/18 at 1:20 pm to Pygthagorean Theorem
If you're "elite" do you still have to take classes?
Posted on 8/8/18 at 1:24 pm to Pygthagorean Theorem
NCAA trying to cover their arse, it seems.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 1:30 pm to UAtide11
I don't have a problem with players having an "official relationship with agents." It really should be better. If a player can sign some sort of contract with an agent, the agents won't be as inclined to keep giving players benefits on the side as an insurance policy for a verbal agreement...in theory. The gifts would have to come in a much shorter time span if there was a "bidding war" behind the scenes, which SHOULD make it more detectable.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 1:32 pm to Pygthagorean Theorem
Good thing I care nothing about basket hoops.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 1:33 pm to Auburn80
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If you're "elite" do you still have to take classes?
I've always had a problem with this regarding NCAA basketball. If you are a one and done player, does it really matter you bomb every single class you take? I mean you are done after March.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 1:34 pm to threedog79
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I've always had a problem with this regarding NCAA basketball. If you are a one and done player, does it really matter you bomb every single class you take? I mean you are done after March.
You have to remain eligible after 1st semester, cant just not go to any class and fail your entire 1st semester
2nd semester, doesnt matter
Posted on 8/8/18 at 1:37 pm to Pygthagorean Theorem
How does this not make it's way into football? I actually like the part about returning to school after the draft. That should be in place for football too
Posted on 8/8/18 at 1:42 pm to narddogg81
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How does this not make it's way into football? I actually like the part about returning to school after the draft. That should be in place for football too
While I love the idea of returning to school if undrafted, how do some coaches even recruit any more?
Early signing day is in November the year before the draft and the late signing day is in April while the draft is in June...
Sooo, what happens when you have your whole signing class done, you had 4 guys declare for the draft, you THINK 3 of the 4 are sure bets to be drafted, assume 1 wont, but then only 1 of the 4 gets drafted, and 3 want to come back?
Release some of the guys you signed in April? or November the prior year.
That's where that can start to get really messy
This post was edited on 8/8/18 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 8/8/18 at 2:00 pm to DoreonthePlains
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I don't have a problem with players having an "official relationship with agents." It really should be better. If a player can sign some sort of contract with an agent, the agents won't be as inclined to keep giving players benefits on the side as an insurance policy for a verbal agreement...in theory. The gifts would have to come in a much shorter time span if there was a "bidding war" behind the scenes, which SHOULD make it more detectable.
All it takes to become an agent is a college degree (or relevant 'negotiation' experience), $250, and passing a 50-question multiple-choice, open-book test. And based on my understanding, colleges won't be able to run these guys off. I just think that makes for a toxic environment.
And recurring gifts pale in comparison to the bidding wars you're talking about. Those already happen, with nearly every big time prospect and it starts with the shoe companies and AAU teams. Memphis and Kentucky are currently in one for James Wiseman. He'll easily command $250k+. CBB is WAY worse than CFB in terms of paying recruits.
Personally, I'd like to see college basketball go to the college baseball model and let the D-League be the farm system it was meant to be. But that would be a HUGE money-loser for the NCAA. The NCAA makes 90+% of its money on basketball, almost nothing on football. And that's why you seldom see the 'cash cows' get sanctioned (e.g. UNC, Duke, Kansas) with few exceptions
This post was edited on 8/8/18 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 8/8/18 at 2:11 pm to UAtide11
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CBB is WAY worse than CFB in terms of paying recruits.
The nature of having 22+ "starters" on a roster compared to 5... the impact of that *one* dude is significantly higher...
Posted on 8/8/18 at 3:51 pm to Pygthagorean Theorem
What a dumpster fire college basketball is. The NBA needs to ditch their stupid one and done requirements and develop their own minor league.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 3:57 pm to Auburn80
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If you're "elite" do you still have to take classes?
UNCheats set the bar when it comes to taking fake classes.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 3:59 pm to thunderbird1100
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While I love the idea of returning to school if undrafted, how do some coaches even recruit any more?
Early signing day is in November the year before the draft and the late signing day is in April while the draft is in June...
Sooo, what happens when you have your whole signing class done, you had 4 guys declare for the draft, you THINK 3 of the 4 are sure bets to be drafted, assume 1 wont, but then only 1 of the 4 gets drafted, and 3 want to come back?
Release some of the guys you signed in April? or November the prior year.
That's where that can start to get really messy
And that's exactly what college baseball coaches have to deal with every year, more or less. It's a nightmare
Posted on 8/8/18 at 4:03 pm to Pygthagorean Theorem
Posted on 8/8/18 at 4:05 pm to Pygthagorean Theorem
One step away from nothing recruits or players do can make them ineligible. Next comes openly paying players.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 4:09 pm to Pygthagorean Theorem
While they are at they need to get a president to run the NCAA that hasn't already been caught cheating and covering up scandals.
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