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NCAA Division 1 FBS Football is the only sport in this country
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:51 am
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:51 am
Where you can win every game you play and never even have the opportunity to play for the Championship. Half the schools are excluded before the season even begins. It is laughable. An eight team playoff would solve all these problems. Make it happen.
Before people come in and say that the 9th team will complain, I know that. People always complain. The number 9 team in the country usually has 3 losses anyway. No one would care. That is a much better problem to have than a 12-1 OSU getting left out and a UCF team that has won 25 consecutive games never getting the opportunity to play for a championship.
Before people come in and say that the 9th team will complain, I know that. People always complain. The number 9 team in the country usually has 3 losses anyway. No one would care. That is a much better problem to have than a 12-1 OSU getting left out and a UCF team that has won 25 consecutive games never getting the opportunity to play for a championship.
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:52 am to MSHawg1
Sure, that's fine I guess, whatever.
Or we could just do the smart thing and split D1 in half and admit that the average drop off from P5 to G5 is the same as the average dropoff from G5 to FCS.
P5 (65 teams)
G5 (65 teams)
FCS (125 teams)
Or we could just do the smart thing and split D1 in half and admit that the average drop off from P5 to G5 is the same as the average dropoff from G5 to FCS.
P5 (65 teams)
G5 (65 teams)
FCS (125 teams)
This post was edited on 12/6/18 at 9:54 am
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:54 am to MSHawg1
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People always complain.
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It is laughable.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:54 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Or we could just do the smart thing and split D1 in half and admit that the average drop off from P5 to G5 is the same as the average dropoff from G5 to FCS.
This would definitely be the better option. The P5 needs to break off and form its own league independent from the NCAA. That way you have 64 teams competing for the big prize instead of 130, which makes it easier to crown a national champion with an 8-team playoff.
Reduce the length of the regular season from 12 games to 10 games, have every conference conduct a conference championship game for automatic qualifiers, and then choose the three remaining at-large teams with a committee.
This post was edited on 12/6/18 at 9:56 am
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:56 am to MSHawg1
Half the schools have no expectation to play for a title. It’d be like if the CFL and the NFL merged. In this analogy UGA would be the Browns.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:57 am to MSHawg1
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An eight team playoff would solve all these problems
All an 8 team playoff does is make it easier for Ohio State, Oklahoma, Alabama, etc basically all the teams people complain about getting in even easier. 4 teams makes it exclusive.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:58 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Or we could just do the smart thing and split D1 in half and admit that the average drop off from P5 to G5 is the same as the average dropoff from G5 to FCS.
Correct plan right here. There are a bunch of teams playing in FBS that should’ve have stayed in FCS.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:59 am to MSHawg1
Everyone should play a 100 game schedule. Play everyone once and then playoffs.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:00 am to MSHawg1
If you somehow had an NFL with the same number of teams, you would still hear the same bitching, even with the larger playoffs.
(and a frick ton of empty stadiums)
Anyway, keep complaining, and you'll finally kill the bowl system, one of the unique parts of college football.
(and a frick ton of empty stadiums)
Anyway, keep complaining, and you'll finally kill the bowl system, one of the unique parts of college football.
This post was edited on 12/6/18 at 10:01 am
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:02 am to Jake_LaMotta
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4 teams makes it exclusive.
I have never complained about Bama getting in in '17. They looked like a team that if they played well, could win it all. All I want is for teams that are just as deserving to make it as well. You cannot convince me that UCF did not deserve to make the playoff last season. You also cannot give a legit reason why OU has a better resume than OSU this season. Just take the controversy away and go to eight teams. Find out who the "best" team really is.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:02 am to MSHawg1
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Where you can win every game you play and never even have the opportunity to play for the Championship.
You could win every race/meet in track and field or swimming for an entire season and never qualify a single person for ncaas.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:03 am to MoarKilometers
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never even have the opportunity
Read the darn post. You have the "opportunity" with track
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:04 am to MSHawg1
It's not the only way to solve this issue, but it is a problem and hurts the long term health of the sport.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:06 am to MSHawg1
This is a problem because the NCAA decided to let anybody and everybody declare themselves "Division 1A" as long as they had a stadium that held 30K or whatever.
That was idiotic. Football doesn't play 40 games, there is no logical way to take a field of 130 teams and get a true sense of how they all rank. The only way is to apply metrics (that aren't foolproof) and historical averages to decide if a team "deserves" a shot.
The NCAA caused this mess by letting the FBS get this way. It shouldn't be "unfair" to half the FBS because half the FBS should be competing against eachother. There is a reason that D1 Basketball has 300+ teams and FBS Football has 130........and it isn't because all of those D1 basketball programs not in FBS don't play football. Most of them do. They just play it on the appropriate level, but basketball is different and can be done in a different way with more teams and more games.
That was idiotic. Football doesn't play 40 games, there is no logical way to take a field of 130 teams and get a true sense of how they all rank. The only way is to apply metrics (that aren't foolproof) and historical averages to decide if a team "deserves" a shot.
The NCAA caused this mess by letting the FBS get this way. It shouldn't be "unfair" to half the FBS because half the FBS should be competing against eachother. There is a reason that D1 Basketball has 300+ teams and FBS Football has 130........and it isn't because all of those D1 basketball programs not in FBS don't play football. Most of them do. They just play it on the appropriate level, but basketball is different and can be done in a different way with more teams and more games.
This post was edited on 12/6/18 at 10:08 am
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:07 am to MSHawg1
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Read the darn post. You have the "opportunity" with track
Your "opportunity" could be met by finishing 12th at sec's, but winning a shite conference for the 4th year in a row could still leave you way out of the running. It's like time based sports prove conference inequality is in fact extremely fricking real.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:08 am to MSHawg1
There are too many teams in Division 1. Let's eliminate some of these schools to a different division.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:11 am to RollTide1987
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Reduce the length of the regular season from 12 games to 10 games, have every conference conduct a conference championship game for automatic qualifiers, and then choose the three remaining at-large teams with a committee.
Why not just give one of the at-large bids to the best G5 champion and just have two at-large bids? Three at-large bids is completely unnecessary. When's the last time there's been three Power 5 teams that didn't win their conference with only one regular season loss? 2008 is the only year I can recall that happening. Under the three at-large team format, a two-loss Michigan team that got blown out in their final regular season game would have gotten in this year. Last year, it would have been a three-loss Auburn team. And the year before that, it would have been a three-loss Wisconsin team making it. I would rather given an at-large berth to an undefeated G5 team than see those teams getting a shot.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:19 am to Bench McElroy
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Why not just give one of the at-large bids to the best G5 champion and just have two at-large bids? Three at-large bids is completely unnecessary. When's the last time there's been three Power 5 teams that didn't win their conference with only one regular season loss? 2008 is the only year I can recall that happening. Under the three at-large team format, a two-loss Michigan team that got blown out in their final regular season game would have gotten in this year. Last year, it would have been a three-loss Auburn team. And the year before that, it would have been a three-loss Wisconsin team making it. I would rather given an at-large berth to an undefeated G5 team than see those teams getting a shot.
If we are going to do 8-teams, I think the best way to do it is like they used to do the BCS in regards to a G5 team
- 5 conference champs (stipulation you MUST be ranked in the Top 10 after championship game, if not, your spot is given up)
- 1 G5 auto bid (same stipulation as above)
- 2 or more at large depending on above
Now, that will obviously shift the focus to whether a team is in the Top 10 - but I think it eliminates the possibility of a 9-4 team winning a conference title and getting in or having a year where the best G5 team goes 9-3.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:21 am to SummerOfGeorge
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If we are going to do 8-teams, I think the best way to do it is like they used to do the BCS in regards to a G5 team
- 5 conference champs (stipulation you MUST be ranked in the Top 10 after championship game, if not, your spot is given up)
- 1 G5 auto bid (same stipulation as above)
- 2 or more at large depending on above
Now, that will obviously shift the focus to whether a team is in the Top 10 - but I think it eliminates the possibility of a 9-4 team winning a conference title and getting in or having a year where the best G5 team goes 9-3.
This is the best solution I've heard
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:23 am to SummerOfGeorge
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If we are going to do 8-teams, I think the best way to do it is like they used to do the BCS in regards to a G5 team
- 5 conference champs (stipulation you MUST be ranked in the Top 10 after championship game, if not, your spot is given up)
- 1 G5 auto bid (same stipulation as above)
- 2 or more at large depending on above
Now, that will obviously shift the focus to whether a team is in the Top 10 - but I think it eliminates the possibility of a 9-4 team winning a conference title and getting in or having a year where the best G5 team goes 9-3.
Yeah, that would probably be the perfect format. Maybe have a play-in game for the G5 bid. It would eliminate all arguments. Everybody would get a fair chance.
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