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NCAA IS re-opening LSU's Kristian Fulton 2-year ban case
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:38 pm
VIP article on 247, but the NCAA in the next couple weeks will go over new evidence presented that could re-open the case and potentially get a new hearing and verdict for Fulton who has already served a year suspension for tampering with NCAA drug test.
Would be big if he's deemed eligible, supposedly been the 2nd best CB on the team in need for corners. If he is not deemed eligible, he would be eligible in 2019 after serving 2 year suspension and be a true senior as he played as a freshman in 2016 and per the NCAA they do not allow a redshirt year if you're under NCAA suspension.
EDIT - as of 7/27, NCAA is re-opening case, decision expected in less than 2 weeks, possibly end of next week
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Would be big if he's deemed eligible, supposedly been the 2nd best CB on the team in need for corners. If he is not deemed eligible, he would be eligible in 2019 after serving 2 year suspension and be a true senior as he played as a freshman in 2016 and per the NCAA they do not allow a redshirt year if you're under NCAA suspension.
EDIT - as of 7/27, NCAA is re-opening case, decision expected in less than 2 weeks, possibly end of next week
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This post was edited on 7/27/18 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:10 pm to thunderbird1100
A 2 year ban is harsh. What he did was stupid, but damn, 2 years is ridiculous
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:13 pm to thunderbird1100
Would be huge if overturned. Two years is a bit excessive. What goes unnoticed and unsaid is that he would have passed for PEDs, which is what they were testing for.
And while I love this post as an LSU fan, expect some lovely responses from A&M, Arky and maybe even Bama.
And while I love this post as an LSU fan, expect some lovely responses from A&M, Arky and maybe even Bama.
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:15 pm to thunderbird1100
Would be huge for Eaux’s chances of saving his job
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:18 pm to thunderbird1100
The only question mark on the defense was at the CB spot opposite of Greedy, and the general corner depth.
Needless to say, this would be a huge addition.
Trying not to get my hopes up but yeah, this would be yuge folks
Needless to say, this would be a huge addition.
Trying not to get my hopes up but yeah, this would be yuge folks
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:20 pm to thunderbird1100
Don't break the rules. Simple
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:23 pm to texag7
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Don't break the rules. Simple
It should be, but it isn't. Plenty of college athletes get away with breaking rules all of the time.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:34 pm to LSU Patrick
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It should be, but it isn't. Plenty of college athletes get away with breaking rules all of the time.
It actually is. People in every walk of life make decisions on whether to follow rules or break them. Those who break them run the risk of being caught and then subjected to penalties. Just because someone gets away with something doesn't automatically mean you will too.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:36 pm to Cobrasize
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A 2 year ban is harsh. What he did was stupid, but damn, 2 years is ridiculous
It is kind of ridiculous this is the only way you can get a 2 year suspension. On top of that, his re-test showed he passed,
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:37 pm to Cobrasize
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What he did was stupid
Apple/tree.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:39 pm to LSU Patrick
He should serve two times the length of suspension for a failed test. Once for a failed test and once for tampering with the test. That seems pretty fair.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:42 pm to Barstools
he didn't fail the test though. That's what makes the tampering such a... questionable decision in the first place
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:43 pm to thunderbird1100
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kind of ridiculous this is the only way you can get a 2 year suspension. On top of that, his re-test showed he passed,
Not really. The penalty for one failed test for PEDs is one year. If tampering with the test isn't more severe than the failed test itself, players would have no reason not to tamper with the test. The penalty is to deter players from trying to cheat the system.
The fact that he subsequently passed the test means nothing. He though he was going to fail and tried to cover that up. He's a dumb arse.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:44 pm to Barstools
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He should serve two times the length of suspension for a failed test. Once for a failed test and once for tampering with the test. That seems pretty fair.
He passed the test with the re-test. They discarded the accused tampered test and he passed the re-test.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:45 pm to JBREAUX4LSU
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Would be huge if overturned. Two years is a bit excessive. What goes unnoticed and unsaid is that he would have passed for PEDs, which is what they were testing for.
Can't agree that it was excessive for messing with a drug test. I also find it difficult to believe that he would have passed the test had he not tampered with the test. If he were innocent why in the world would he tamper with the test? Just to see if he could get away with it?
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:45 pm to Barstools
WOW... hard to believe that LSU is the only school where kids make bad choices. Not like he stole crab legs or jump up on a chair yelling about pounding some girl in the puss.
But in this case, I don't think he fail the test but did tamper with it.
But in this case, I don't think he fail the test but did tamper with it.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:46 pm to thunderbird1100
REC doing work...
[quote] If you're tuned in to the recruiting scene, you might remember former five-star defensive back Kristian Fulton from Metairie, Louisiana. The defensive back signed with LSU in the class of 2016 and was one of five top-100 players in former coach Les Miles' final class with the Tigers.
Fulton was supposed to come in and be one of the next in line at "DBU." Since then ... silence. Now we know why. After playing sparingly as a freshman under Miles and then-interim coach Ed Orgeron in 2016,
Fulton didn't see the field in 2017 and won't in 2018 unless he wins an off-the-field fight that has been brewing for more than a year. According to Ross Dellenger of The Advocate, Fulton was suspended by the NCAA for two years -- one for allegedly attempting to use a fraudulent drug testing sample during his true freshman season, and another for "failing" the test in which the fraudulent sample was allegedly used.
Fulton's family is appealing the ruling in the hopes of Fulton regaining eligibility for the 2018 season by calling into question the handling of Fulton's sample.
"The NCAA suspending this young man for two full competitive seasons is unethical, and there are due process issues relative to the collection of the test specimen," Don Jackson, the attorney representing the Fulton family, told The Advocate. "The decision in this case was ethically and legally incorrect. He's suffered the most serious sanction I've ever seen for a student-athlete who failed a drug test."
Fulton's absence has not only impacted a defense that was in need of the versatility that the 6-foot, 177-pounder provides, but has negated the impact of a recruiting class that was headlined by top-tier defensive backs. In addition to Fulton, the Tigers signed Savion Smith -- another five-star defensive back -- in the class of 2016.
Like Fulton, Smith played sparingly as a freshman during the 2016 season. Instead of sticking around through the change to the Orgeron era, he landed at Alabama by way of Mississippi Gulf Coast Community College.
With Fulton's status in flux, Smith going to a rival and the early departures of Kevin Toliver and Donte Jackson to the NFL, "Greedy" Williams is left as "the man" in LSU's secondary.
On top of that, it makes the decision of Patrick Surtain Jr. to sign with Alabama over LSU on National Signing Day in 2018 even more painful.
Report: Former five-star LSU DB Kristian Fulton fighting two-year NCAA suspension
[quote] If you're tuned in to the recruiting scene, you might remember former five-star defensive back Kristian Fulton from Metairie, Louisiana. The defensive back signed with LSU in the class of 2016 and was one of five top-100 players in former coach Les Miles' final class with the Tigers.
Fulton was supposed to come in and be one of the next in line at "DBU." Since then ... silence. Now we know why. After playing sparingly as a freshman under Miles and then-interim coach Ed Orgeron in 2016,
Fulton didn't see the field in 2017 and won't in 2018 unless he wins an off-the-field fight that has been brewing for more than a year. According to Ross Dellenger of The Advocate, Fulton was suspended by the NCAA for two years -- one for allegedly attempting to use a fraudulent drug testing sample during his true freshman season, and another for "failing" the test in which the fraudulent sample was allegedly used.
Fulton's family is appealing the ruling in the hopes of Fulton regaining eligibility for the 2018 season by calling into question the handling of Fulton's sample.
"The NCAA suspending this young man for two full competitive seasons is unethical, and there are due process issues relative to the collection of the test specimen," Don Jackson, the attorney representing the Fulton family, told The Advocate. "The decision in this case was ethically and legally incorrect. He's suffered the most serious sanction I've ever seen for a student-athlete who failed a drug test."
Fulton's absence has not only impacted a defense that was in need of the versatility that the 6-foot, 177-pounder provides, but has negated the impact of a recruiting class that was headlined by top-tier defensive backs. In addition to Fulton, the Tigers signed Savion Smith -- another five-star defensive back -- in the class of 2016.
Like Fulton, Smith played sparingly as a freshman during the 2016 season. Instead of sticking around through the change to the Orgeron era, he landed at Alabama by way of Mississippi Gulf Coast Community College.
With Fulton's status in flux, Smith going to a rival and the early departures of Kevin Toliver and Donte Jackson to the NFL, "Greedy" Williams is left as "the man" in LSU's secondary.
On top of that, it makes the decision of Patrick Surtain Jr. to sign with Alabama over LSU on National Signing Day in 2018 even more painful.
Report: Former five-star LSU DB Kristian Fulton fighting two-year NCAA suspension
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:46 pm to memphisplaya
It doesn't matter whether he failed or not. The point is he thought he was going to and tried to cover it up. Subsequently passing the test means nothing.
That's like saying, well I only robbed the bank because I thought I needed the money. Turns out I won the lottery the next day so now I'm returning the money.
That's like saying, well I only robbed the bank because I thought I needed the money. Turns out I won the lottery the next day so now I'm returning the money.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:47 pm to Bham Bammer
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Just because someone gets away with something doesn't automatically mean you will too.
Well, no shite. My point was that he should try to fight it, because lots of other players have gotten away with or received lesser penalties for worse.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:47 pm to thunderbird1100
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On top of that, his re-test showed he passed,
Then he was stupid for tampering with the test, then....right?
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