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Name a game when Saban has equal of less talent
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:45 am
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:45 am
Name a game when Saban has equal of less talent but did not lose.
I will submit that he beat 2001 Tennessee in the SEC CG when he had less talent. He beat a solid 2011 LSU team in the NCG, but it took him two bites at the apple to do so (to his credit he completely changed his game strategy and Less did not). I will submit that he rarely beats teams when he has equal or less talent, which is why he focuses on the “process” so much.
I will submit that he beat 2001 Tennessee in the SEC CG when he had less talent. He beat a solid 2011 LSU team in the NCG, but it took him two bites at the apple to do so (to his credit he completely changed his game strategy and Less did not). I will submit that he rarely beats teams when he has equal or less talent, which is why he focuses on the “process” so much.
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Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:46 am to michael corleone
Isn't the name of the game to accumulate as much talent as possible?
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:49 am to michael corleone
2018-Citadel
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:49 am to michael corleone
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I will submit that he beat 2001 Tennessee in the SEC CG when he had less talent. He beat a solid 2011 LSU team in the NCG, but it took him two bites at the apple to do so (to his credit he completely changed his game strategy and Less did not). I will submit that he rarely beats teams when he has equal or less talent, which is why he focuses on the “process” so much.
Okay, the two you mentioned and then the two games against Georgia. We might not have had quite as much talent, but it was pretty close. The two games against Clemson, maybe? You would think all the National Championship games they have won the talent gap was pretty darn close.
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:52 am to michael corleone
In his defense he doesn’t have a lot of opportunities to pull upsets because he’s almost never the underdog.
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:56 am to michael corleone
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I will submit
Just like your team, first weekend in November
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:59 am to michael corleone
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Posted on 7/21/19 at 8:00 am to michael corleone
You should probably check the starting lineups for the 2009 SEC Championship game
Also, name the times Alabama played a team with equal or more talent. Just saying it doesn't ever happen isn't exactly an indictment on a coach, it just shows that he accumulates tons of talent. And his record vs teams with lesser talent rivals anyone in the modern history of the sport.
So, this argument is always pretty dumb.
Also, name the times Alabama played a team with equal or more talent. Just saying it doesn't ever happen isn't exactly an indictment on a coach, it just shows that he accumulates tons of talent. And his record vs teams with lesser talent rivals anyone in the modern history of the sport.
So, this argument is always pretty dumb.
This post was edited on 7/21/19 at 8:02 am
Posted on 7/21/19 at 8:06 am to michael corleone
I don't understand. The fact that Nick Saban's teams are very talented is supposed to be some kind of indictment against him as a coach?
Posted on 7/21/19 at 8:07 am to michael corleone
Part of the job requirement of a college head football coach is to acquire talent, so if he knows he’s lacking in X’s and O’s Dept, he’s more than compensating in the recruiting dept.
Posted on 7/21/19 at 8:21 am to michael corleone
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Shutout the greatest collection of talent ever assembled and hoisted that trophy.
Shutout the greatest collection of talent ever assembled and hoisted that trophy.
Posted on 7/21/19 at 8:28 am to michael corleone
Against Tennessee in 2007. He had lost five players just that morning to the textbook scandal, including All-American center Antoine Caldwell, RB Glen Coffee, and another starting OL. With probably his worst OC of his tenure at Alabama in a 28-year-old Major Applewhite, he pounded Tennessee 41-17. Applewhite took John Chavis to the woodshed. John Parker Wilson was 32/46-363-3-0.
Tennessee had three players taken in the 2008 NFL draft, including QB Erik Ainge. Alabama had zero players drafted.
This game itself blows away your assertion that he "rarely beats teams when he has equal or less talent". Not only did he have significantly less talent against Tennessee, but that morning he lost five key players who had gotten all the first-team reps in practice all week. DJ Hall, who had a career day against Tennessee, likely wouldn't have even seen the field at Alabama the last few years.
Your assertion is stupid.
Tennessee had three players taken in the 2008 NFL draft, including QB Erik Ainge. Alabama had zero players drafted.
This game itself blows away your assertion that he "rarely beats teams when he has equal or less talent". Not only did he have significantly less talent against Tennessee, but that morning he lost five key players who had gotten all the first-team reps in practice all week. DJ Hall, who had a career day against Tennessee, likely wouldn't have even seen the field at Alabama the last few years.
Your assertion is stupid.
This post was edited on 7/22/19 at 12:33 am
Posted on 7/21/19 at 10:08 am to michael corleone
2010 Texas
Posted on 7/21/19 at 10:10 am to labamafan
2018 Georgia
2019 Georgia
2012 LSU
2019 Georgia
2012 LSU
Posted on 7/21/19 at 11:16 am to michael corleone
I can name a game that had more talent that still got
their arse whooped...
their arse whooped...
Posted on 7/21/19 at 11:18 am to michael corleone
When he was at Michigan State and the Miami Dolphins.
He couldn’t wait to leave both.
He couldn’t wait to leave both.
Posted on 7/21/19 at 11:30 am to ukraine_rebel
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Part of the job requirement of a college head football coach is to acquire talent, so if he knows he’s lacking in X’s and O’s Dept, he’s more than compensating in the recruiting dept.
I would break down the necessary attributes of a CFB coach in this order.
1. Adequate leadership. Doesn’t necessarily have to be an inspirational leader but needs to have a firm grip on the program so that it doesn’t roll off in the ditch at some point.
2. Excellent recruiter. No one wins big without great players.
3. Has a good understanding of football at a macro level. Doesn’t have to be an X’s and O’s savant but understands schemes and where the game is headed.
4. Hires good assistants.
Saban is a 10 at #1, #2 and #3. #4 has been lacking in recent years and he needs to address constant staff turnover one way or another. Staff stability is where Clemson is gaining the upper hand over Bama.
Posted on 7/21/19 at 12:56 pm to MoarKilometers
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Just like your team, first weekend in November
This offended my sensibilities but also made me chuckle
Posted on 7/21/19 at 4:57 pm to michael corleone
Guys- Arkansas hasn't beaten Saban in over a decade because we don't recruit like Alabama. This is bullshite and I want a refund.
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