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re: Modern College National Champion vs. Past Super Bowl Champions

Posted on 10/23/19 at 12:45 am to
Posted by TwoTimeTiger
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 10/23/19 at 12:45 am to
Bob Griese would be scrippled in the first quarter.

Let’s just come pair, how do you think a 1970 OT does against K’Lavon Chaisson?

Or a 250 center vs Tyler Shelvin?

Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79765 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:53 am to
First question:

Does the college team have to reduce their roster to 53 players or can the pro team expand to 85?
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 10/23/19 at 3:09 am to
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Let’s just come pair, how do you think a 1970 OT does against K’Lavon Chaisson?


"One Move" Chaisson? Norm Evans or Wayne Moore would embarrass the kid.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 3:48 am to
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but it won't overcome physics. A 320 lb man running 15 mph will destroy a 250 lb man running 12 mph every time

Those Denver Broncos teams of the mid/late 90's would disagree. Their OLs were smaller and quicker than the guys they were blocking yet they paved the way for Rushing champions, a 2K runner and Championships

I love when ppl use the term "Modern" in comparing todays offenses and defenses. Oh how quick we forget how the Patriots were straight up embarrassed by the heavy underdog Dolphins who went back to the early 1900's and whipped out the Ol Pop Warner Single Wing Offense on em. Todays dumbass media calls it "The Wildcat"
Even Urban Myer says his offense is nothing but Spread Single Wing.
Bill Walsh, yeah that guy. The guy who pretty much ruled the 80's with his "west coast offense" even said he would've loved to have ran the single wing when he had Steve Young. He even stated how the single wing blocking would "chew up" todays defenses.

"One thing I have found very interesting in my conversation with (Bill) Walsh is that he regretted he never tried the single-wing formation with the 49ers. He felt that Steve Young could have run the formation to perfection, and that the league's defenses would have had a difficult time stopping the old formation."

The roots of the Tampa 2 system actually come from the Pittsburgh Steelers and their Steel Curtain defense of the 1970s. "My philosophy is really out of the 1975 Pittsburgh Steelers playbook," said Dungy (who played for the Steelers early in his career) during media interviews while at Super Bowl XLI.

The gap isn't what ppl think
This post was edited on 10/23/19 at 4:14 am
Posted by EasterEgg
New Orleans Metro
Member since Sep 2018
4810 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 3:53 am to
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They used to match up a college team and the Super Bowl champs for a pre-season game every year way back in the day.

But it wasn't a college team. It was a collection of college all stars. It was essentially the upcoming season's rookie class.
Posted by TwoTimeTiger
Member since Aug 2019
729 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 7:49 am to
They wouldn’t be able to lay a hand on him, unless he decided to work his new bull rush move because he would now weight the same at the OT.

Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90360 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 8:24 am to
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Guys then didn’t fricking give a shite about you or sportsmanship. They were out for blood. Period.


The good ol days of football
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 8:36 am to
Tom Brady sucks.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
13751 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 8:39 am to
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Those Denver Broncos teams of the mid/late 90's would disagree. Their OLs were smaller and quicker than the guys they were blocking yet they paved the way for Rushing champions, a 2K runner and Championships 

Go back and look at sizes and 40 times now vs 30 years ago. Due to hormones in our meat and advances in nutritional knowledge and training, the athletes now are on a completely different level. They'll not only be 40 lbs heavier, but 3/10ths of a second faster. I understand sacrificing a few pounds for quickness (teams like Oregon are still that way), but today's players have both.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44575 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 8:44 am to
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They used to match up a college team and the Super Bowl champs for a pre-season game every year way back in the day.


quote:

But it wasn't a college team. It was a collection of college all stars. It was essentially the upcoming season's rookie class.


That was also back when NFL players had second jobs in the offseason and didn't train all year.
Posted by TwoTimeTiger
Member since Aug 2019
729 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:48 am to
Those Broncos teams in the mid 90 weren’t 250

They were still 285-290 and a couple guys over 290

Again, OL have been getting bigger faster and stronger

So as you compare teams closer in time that difference will be smaller

But 250 isn’t going to beat 320.

There is a reason all compare sports have weight classes and sports who don’t look for digger stronger faster
Posted by givem6
Member since Sep 2019
112 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:50 am to
At least 20 of Bama NC was against NFL Teams
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23709 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:58 am to
Bill Curry was a center in the NFL back in Butkus' day 2 time pro bowler in 71 and 72 for the Colts. 6 ft 3 235.

Put him out there today in his prime in a big time college game? He'd have no chance.

Conrad Dobler the Ric Flair of the NFL,dirtiest player in the game 6 ft 3 254 guard. He'd piss some monster off and get crushed.

Even John Hannah, who some call the greatest O Lineman ever..was only 6 ft 2 265.
This post was edited on 10/23/19 at 10:05 am
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