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re: Mike Leach’s ambitious plan to fix NIL: ‘Are you a professional or are you not?’
Posted on 10/5/22 at 4:11 pm to paperwasp
Posted on 10/5/22 at 4:11 pm to paperwasp
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separate semi-pro league
No one gives a shite about minor league sports.
I know student athletes have gotten a raw deal with all the money being thrown around the past 2 decades... but on the flip side of that NCAA Sports, especially football at big universities come with a brand and platform of their own that are already built and maintained that players also benefit from.
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Why do so many people on this board hate free market Capitalism?
Most of what is being proposed are just simple rules for competition, which every league has... it's what makes it a coherent league and not Boxing..
This post was edited on 10/5/22 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 10/5/22 at 4:22 pm to paperwasp
Sounds like a way to bankrupt schools.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 7:40 am to paperwasp
The NFL is the biggest billionaire scam in the country. A semi pro or farm league would be a money losing proposition. The NFL gets public taxpayer funded universities (private schools send very few players to the pros) to recruit, develop, put out a product that benefits the NFL. The NFL put to have to pay each school $1,000,000 for every player that leaves school early for the draft.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 7:46 am to kajunman
This guy is supposed to be smart and funny and frankly, I just don't see any evidence that he's either. And I've been waiting patiently since he got to Starkvegas.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 7:48 am to bamameister
quote:Neither of those matter to me. I like his idea though.
This guy is supposed to be smart and funny
Posted on 10/6/22 at 8:34 am to kajunman
I personally think the NIL plan is fine... if it were run as intended.
Essentially, players should be allowed to market themselves. But they should be allowed to be bought before signing. NIL should be something that happens after you join the team, not as a lure to come to a team. It should reward those that show they can be marketable commodities at the college level.
NIL quickly became about recruiting... and that's an issue I think. It's hard to say that a business is signing a deal based on his ability to market products or services as a high school prospect... because that's plain stupid. They haven't shown they can even get on the field.
Once they make a marketable name for themselves, that's where deals should be signed. It should be used to draw a student to a school. And they should be payable if the student changes their mind an goes somewhere else... not be in any way tied to the school they are attending.
I'd love for players to sign big deals with a school using that to recruit them and then have the players go elsewhere and still be paid. The more that happens, the better NIL will be.
Essentially, players should be allowed to market themselves. But they should be allowed to be bought before signing. NIL should be something that happens after you join the team, not as a lure to come to a team. It should reward those that show they can be marketable commodities at the college level.
NIL quickly became about recruiting... and that's an issue I think. It's hard to say that a business is signing a deal based on his ability to market products or services as a high school prospect... because that's plain stupid. They haven't shown they can even get on the field.
Once they make a marketable name for themselves, that's where deals should be signed. It should be used to draw a student to a school. And they should be payable if the student changes their mind an goes somewhere else... not be in any way tied to the school they are attending.
I'd love for players to sign big deals with a school using that to recruit them and then have the players go elsewhere and still be paid. The more that happens, the better NIL will be.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 8:49 am to DawginSC
Anyone that thinks the current state of NIL affairs isn’t going to be problematic going forward is kidding themselves.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 8:57 am to CrownTownHalo
We need to ket this thing play itself out for a few years before we freek out. I think this surge of nil money will level out.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 9:11 am to paperwasp
This is a great idea and needs to happen. The NCAA is toothless when it comes to busting the bigger schools so any NIL regulation is pointless and only serves to widen the gap. These young men are professionals and have been for quite some time. It's time to treat them like it and put systems in place to protect both parties and create parity.
A draft and contracts are needed. The old model of recruiting needs to be burnt down. It's been obsolete for decades and wasn't really a good set up from the beginning. NIL is a band-aid that doesn't fix anything. It's a last ditch effort to maintain the guise of amateurism.
A draft and contracts are needed. The old model of recruiting needs to be burnt down. It's been obsolete for decades and wasn't really a good set up from the beginning. NIL is a band-aid that doesn't fix anything. It's a last ditch effort to maintain the guise of amateurism.
This post was edited on 10/6/22 at 9:14 am
Posted on 10/6/22 at 9:18 am to V Bainbridge
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It's time to treat them like it and put systems in place to protect both parties and create parity.
So this really has nothing to do with players getting paid for NIL? It's all about "parity." A mythological concept to bring the have-nots up to speed with the haves. College football isn't the NFL and never will be.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 9:44 am to paperwasp
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Those choosing to be professionals would be paid a salary from the school,
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amateurs would receive a $100,000 bonus once they graduate from the school
If all these funds are paid by the schools directly then Title IX is obviously a factor and all athletes in
every sport will have to be compensated
in the same way.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 9:53 am to bamameister
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So this really has nothing to do with players getting paid for NIL?
NIL shouldn't even be a thing. Once they are professionals the young men can do ads for whoever they please and for whatever value the market dictates. Having it be the sole method to be paid actual cash for their work is just stupid and a hail mary effort to keep the failing system in place.
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College football isn't the NFL and never will be
These changes are coming man. You can pretend they aren't but the current state of affairs is going to turn into even more of a shitshow than it already is VERY quickly. When the P5 schools split off, there will be a draft and contracts.
This post was edited on 10/6/22 at 9:54 am
Posted on 10/6/22 at 10:01 am to SneezyBeltranIsHere
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The way things are right now is fine. These are university students who make money from other sources. Kids have always gone to college and gotten paid by businesses. NIL is like a side job that just happens to pay well.
This is the free market. Let it do its thing.
Why do so many people on this board hate free market Capitalism?
You clearly don't understand. The problem is not players getting paid, free market, or capitalism. The problem is these kids are milking the coaches and universities from both being an amateur and a professional whenever it suits them. It's horrible for the sport, it's horrible for universities, and it's most especially horrible for the coaches.
I've spoke to friends high up the AD ladder of an SEC program within the last few weeks (not Alabama), and NIL coupled with the transfer rules was their emphasis; "the kids have all the power, their entitled, and the coaches have to babysit them and re-recruit them constantly. It has also opened the floodgates for programs to contact players of other schools who are simply trying to buy them away".
It's a problem, and it has to be corrected.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 10:15 am to Nitro Express
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It's a problem, and it has to be corrected.
I can see NIL getting better defined in time. We just don't have any bylaws on the subject other than state legislation and that's not restricting much.
But the magic portal has been defined and tweaked with new NCAA bylaws at this point. And these portals have been super busy even without NIL pushing the issue. I fear this wholesale exchange of talent is the new business model going forward.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 6:17 pm to MoarKilometers
Yea...what a shame...just think a kid going to school on a athletic scholarship would actually have to graduate...what's he thinking?
Posted on 10/6/22 at 6:21 pm to paperwasp
I like it. It makes sense.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 6:29 pm to paperwasp
Damn good and rational plan which means it'll never be adopted. He's right though, the current system is neither fish nor fowl, is unsustainable and will eventually completely wreck CFB as we know it.
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