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re: Might have to rethink Ms St picks. Lots of suspensions coming
Posted on 8/14/19 at 6:04 pm to Tigerman97
Posted on 8/14/19 at 6:04 pm to Tigerman97
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Thankfully, Auburn complied with the NCAA when a NOA came in October and ruled Cam ineligible in November but the NCAA reinstated Cam after they accepted Auburn's argument that neither Cam nor Auburn broke a rule and Cam wasn't aware of any rules that were broke on his behalf.
That is hilarious. I would have "complied" with the NCAA as well.
Why would someone reportedly as shady as Cecil was in the whole deal all the sudden have a crisis of conscience?
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Posted on 8/14/19 at 10:06 pm to BobLeeDagger
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It's in Starkville this year and Kentucky doesn't have Benny who played the game of his life last year. I'm more concerned about Kansas State honestly.
And thank goodness for the “game of his life”. Otherwise the Cats couldn’t have put up the 8 points needed to secure the win.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 10:16 pm to OleManDixon
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And thank goodness for the “game of his life”.
I mean, grats on your 2nd win vs State since 2009.
I'm sure you feel a lot more confident now without Snell and now playing @ State this year.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 11:35 pm to BobLeeDagger
My sister in law used to clean Jerry Clower's teeth and she is hearing no suspensions
Posted on 8/15/19 at 12:59 am to Jjdoc
Joe is a walkover and the kids know it. Saban doesnt put up with shite win or lose.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:17 am to AustinDawg
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I mean, grats on your 2nd win vs State since 2009. I'm sure you feel a lot more confident now without Snell and now playing @ State this year.
Because that has anything to do with the point I made.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:32 am to Tigerman97
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'll keep it short because I know most know this, but the SEC notified Auburn of the issues with Mississippi State's recruitment of Cam via the allegations of the MSU booster and Cecil PFP discussion. Auburn's compliance vetted the allegation and was confident not only in Auburn's handling of Cam's recruitment, but that the NCAA rules would not punish Auburn or Cam if the allegation was proven to be true.
This is a great example of "make shite up, put it on a message board, and it gets accepted as truth."
The undisputed FACTS on the Cam recruitment:
Cam's people reached out to MSU (John Bond) and told him the going rate for Cam was 200K, but he wanted to be at State so they'd give them a discount and he'd be theirs for 180K.
MSU immediately turned this info into the SEC office, because they weren't going to pay.
The SEC (Slive) squashed it.
Cam signed with Auburn, left Mullen's wife a voicemail apologizing for not coming to state, said "the money was too much"
State took the matter to the NCAA after the SEC's inaction, pissing off the SEC office
The NCAA did nothing after an "investigation" in collaboration with the SEC office.
These are undisputed facts. There's only one school that paid Cam (or Cecil's church, if you want to be specific).
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:36 am to Tigerman97
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Two coaches were in attendance when the PFP talks occurred...the NCAA accepted that the talks occurred, but then also accepted that the coaches didn't know about the talks but did place them in the meeting. The reading on the findings is circular. Not to mention boosters can't offer PFP and a former player in every other instance would be a booster.
Again, this is complete bullshite. I mean, not a speck of truth. I get that this is a troll board and I troll with the best of them, but this is nonsense and you are embarrassing your entire fanbase when you post shite like this.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:38 am to Drebin
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Again, this is complete bullshite. I mean, not a speck of truth. I get that this is a troll board and I troll with the best of them, but this is nonsense and you are embarrassing your entire fanbase when you post shite like this.
Yeah, it was obvious where his info came from so I just let it go
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:40 am to Hailstate15
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Steve has tweeted nothing.
Skip a couple of happy meals and buy a 247 subscription. All things will become apparent.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:55 am to OleManDixon
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And thank goodness for the “game of his life”. Otherwise the Cats couldn’t have put up the 8 points needed to secure the win.
Well...he did have every single point for Kentucky that game...
Posted on 8/15/19 at 10:02 am to joshua2571
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It isnt Steve Robertson. According to him, everything at Mississippi State is glorious while mentioning Ole Miss in the same breath.
He's such a douche.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 10:13 am to El Mattadorr
He's a homer and obsessed with Ole Miss.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 11:34 pm to BobLeeDagger
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Well...he did have every single point for Kentucky that game...
And again, he only had to put 8 up on the board. He’s done that many times in his career. Probably the Bulldogs offense being completely shutdown by the Cats defense had nothing to do with it. It doesn’t matter. If it makes y’all feel better to say your team managed to give up a “game of his life” performance to an opposing running back then more power to you. Extremely strange flex but you do you.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 8:25 am to OleManDixon
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And again, he only had to put 8 up on the board. He’s done that many times in his career. Probably the Bulldogs offense being completely shutdown by the Cats defense had nothing to do with it. It doesn’t matter. If it makes y’all feel better to say your team managed to give up a “game of his life” performance to an opposing running back then more power to you. Extremely strange flex but you do you.
Kentucky's defense, primarily Allen, your defensive end, kicked State's arse last year. It was a tremendous effort. Congratulations.
I tell Auburn fans who talk down to us about "history" after we beat them last year that people who talk about history are losers, and I'm going to be consistent here, too. No excuses, you guys have bragging rights. Looking forward to meeting up this season.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 8:51 am to OleManDixon
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And again, he only had to put 8 up on the board. He’s done that many times in his career. Probably the Bulldogs offense being completely shutdown by the Cats defense had nothing to do with it. It doesn’t matter. If it makes y’all feel better to say your team managed to give up a “game of his life” performance to an opposing running back then more power to you. Extremely strange flex but you do you.
You're misinterpreting my comment. What I said is in correlation with this years game. There is no doubt y'all handed it to us last year, but you lose Benny and the game is in Starkville. For other posters to imply that last years game somehow gives you an advantage this year is asinine, especially since you lose the two players who had the biggest impact in last year's arse beating.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 10:05 am
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:18 am to Drebin
I don't like the Auburn spin, but some of your facts are off too
State didn't turn it in to the SEC until a few weeks after Cam signed with Auburn. Auburn did it's own investigation and claimed no payment to Cam, so no issue on Auburn's end.
Stricklin says State did not take the matter to the NCAA, and he doesn't know who did. It was almost certainly someone associated with State, but it wasn't done by the AD.
And, what the Auburn people want to ignore is, Cecil Newton admitted that he asked State for money and State said "No." So this idea that State offered money and then turned itself in is just stupid. Auburn was just lucky the NCAA rules did not prohibit family members from asking for money and getting rejected.
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MSU immediately turned this info into the SEC office, because they weren't going to pay.
The SEC (Slive) squashed it.
State didn't turn it in to the SEC until a few weeks after Cam signed with Auburn. Auburn did it's own investigation and claimed no payment to Cam, so no issue on Auburn's end.
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State took the matter to the NCAA after the SEC's inaction, pissing off the SEC office
Stricklin says State did not take the matter to the NCAA, and he doesn't know who did. It was almost certainly someone associated with State, but it wasn't done by the AD.
And, what the Auburn people want to ignore is, Cecil Newton admitted that he asked State for money and State said "No." So this idea that State offered money and then turned itself in is just stupid. Auburn was just lucky the NCAA rules did not prohibit family members from asking for money and getting rejected.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:58 am to Drebin
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This is a great example of "make shite up", put it on a message board, and it gets accepted as truth."
The undisputed FACTS on the Cam recruitment:
Cam's people reached out to MSU (John Bond) and told him the going rate for Cam was 200K, but he wanted to be at State so they'd give them a discount and he'd be theirs for 180K. Link?
MSU immediately turned this info into the SEC office, because they weren't going to pay. Link? Mississippi State University acknowledges that it contacted, Southeastern Conference, in January of 2010
The NCAA and Auburn found Cecil Newton and Rogers first discussed asking representatives of Mississippi State for "a substantial cash payment" around the time of his official visit from Nov. 27-29, 2009.
The SEC (Slive) squashed it.
Cam signed with Auburn, left Mullen's wife a voicemail apologizing for not coming to state, said "the money was too much" Link from a verified source, not bush league reporting? Forde and Schlabach...enough said
State took the matter to the NCAA after the SEC's inaction, pissing off the SEC office Link?
The NCAA did nothing after an "investigation" in collaboration with the SEC office. You suggested this was an example of "make shite up" but where is the evidence of this insane claim?
These are undisputed facts.There's only one school that paid Cam (or Cecil's church, if you want to be specific). "Despite numerous media reports suggesting Newton himself has engaged in wrongdoing, the facts clearly demonstrate Newton has done nothing wrong," Auburn told the NCAA.
You literally didn't post a single fact accurately.
1) An MSU booster per NCAA guidelines reached out too Cecil...he listened which he was punished for listening.
2) MSU acted immediately, or 2 months later.
3) There is zero proof Slive squashed it, but there is evidence when it was brought to Auburn's attention they investigated.
4) The voicemail never turned up. How convenient! Cam may have been the first example of fake news in the social media news cycle era.
5) Zero evidence of this claim...do you have any credible links?
6) The NCAA had a loop hole in their rules of amateurism which Auburn pointed out to them thanks to the internal investigation Auburn had conducted in the summer after being notified of potential issues by the SEC office. The NCAA later closed the loop hole. #TheMoreYouKnow
7) Cecil's Church...are you serious? Is that you Tuna?
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 10:01 am
Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:04 am to Dday63
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I don't like the Auburn spin, but some of your facts are off too
My facts are the same as your facts...you're just disputing the order in which I listed them.
And yes, someone from MSU went to the NCAA, no matter what Stricklin said. It has been long suspected to be Mullen or someone on his behalf, which I do not doubt, given the personal relationship he had with Cam.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:07 am to Drebin
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It has been long suspected
That seems to be a reliable perspective.
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