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re: LSU RB John Emory out for remainder of season?

Posted on 9/13/21 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 9/13/21 at 1:53 pm to
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This is article is saying family is planning to get a lawyer.


Is the family paying for the lawyer or LSU?
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/13/21 at 1:54 pm to
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This is article is saying family is planning to get a lawyer. This may not be over yet by a long shot.


Well at least it seems LSU asked for a waiver from the NCAA who ruled him ineligible. So it seems the family is going after the NCAA on this. Good.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/13/21 at 1:56 pm to
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I don’t watch LSU much so wouldn’t know. Glad he hasn’t played - I want Orgeron to survive the year



In understand you don't watch LSU, I don't watch the Texas A&M yell Leaders much either. Of course I am sure you watch the "Yell leaders very, very, very carefully with your field glasses (i.e. binoculars)."
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17273 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 1:57 pm to
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Somebody on reddit said he was in summer retaking a class he failed in spring which makes even less sense because you would think if you are retaking a class you'd notice you are in the wrong class.
Actually, this makes a little more sense than you might believe.

Suppose the class he failed in spring wasn’t offered in the summer. So he takes a “similar” class that is offered in hopes that it will pass the Clearinghouse.

Plot Twist: It doesn’t.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/13/21 at 2:00 pm to
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So it's your position that programs regularly falsify the academic progress records they report to the NCAA and place both their program and the school's accreditation at risk? Interesting.....


Bama managed to keep this guy eligible. Miracles happen.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 9/13/21 at 2:09 pm to


Let he who didn't have a few similar morning college class experiences cast the first stone.

Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44344 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 2:13 pm to
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Actually, this makes a little more sense than you might believe.

Suppose the class he failed in spring wasn’t offered in the summer. So he takes a “similar” class that is offered in hopes that it will pass the Clearinghouse.

Plot Twist: It doesn’t


This is likely the only scenario where LSU doesn't end up looking really bad in all of this. Basically he fricked up by failing a class he needed, the next time it was available was the fall, and they put him in the closest thing they could find during the summer and hoped.

Otherwise someone fricked up in a big way. Football players don't just look through the course catalog and pick out some classes. They're told what to take and when to take it by the football team's academic advisor.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 9/13/21 at 2:14 pm to
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Well at least it seems LSU asked for a waiver from the NCAA who ruled him ineligible. So it seems the family is going after the NCAA on this. Good.


Not sure that's going to work out for them. If the requirement is that he's got to be on track to graduate and he didn't have the required classes, it's pretty cut and dried on the NCAA's end.

It still seems more like a serious failure on the academic advisor's part and/or whomever is charged with making sure the players stay eligible. If that's the case, I hate it for the kid but the blame needs to be placed in the right place.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4011 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 2:20 pm to
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Not sure that's going to work out for them. If the requirement is that he's got to be on track to graduate and he didn't have the required classes, it's pretty cut and dried on the NCAA's end.

It still seems more like a serious failure on the academic advisor's part and/or whomever is charged with making sure the players stay eligible. If that's the case, I hate it for the kid but the blame needs to be placed in the right place.


I agree with you. My point was that at least LSU went to bat for Emory. I agree courses have to be taken towards a a degree. That is an NCAA rule and no need to try and get in trouble with that. That is one area that the NCAA still has jurisdiction over and can get you into trouble, in this case having to forfeit games.

I agree this should have been audited by the Cox Center for LSU Student Athletes during the summer and addressed before Emory started attending classes. And O should have first day of summer school looked at his players and where they were enrolled in classes and had LSU Cox Center review to make sure players were where they needed to be.

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52305 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 3:02 pm to
Just saw where Jacob Hester said the entire "wrong class" story is false and Emery's academic issue has nothing to do with a class this summer.
Posted by krandor
Member since Dec 2014
1400 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 3:16 pm to
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Just saw where Jacob Hester said the entire "wrong class" story is false and Emery's academic issue has nothing to do with a class this summer.


uh oh.
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
3897 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 3:18 pm to
That's actually worse.
Posted by xenythx
Member since Dec 2007
32417 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 3:32 pm to
Here’s probably the real story: Emery is a dumbass that didn’t even try at school. Orgeron, thinking he’s doing the right thing by “protecting” Emery from ridicule, throws the entire Academic Advisory department under the bus.
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 3:47 pm to
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Here’s probably the real story: Emery is a dumbass that didn’t even try at school. Orgeron, thinking he’s doing the right thing by “protecting” Emery from ridicule, throws the entire Academic Advisory department under the bus.


When did Orgeron do that? Link?
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