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Posted on 10/25/21 at 6:22 pm
Posted by Publicschoolkid
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 6:22 pm
Not trolling. I think it is an interesting time to nix Coach O with the NCAA Investigation/Title IX investigations. How do you think this affects their coaching search? Is there an actual possibility of sanctions? Did any recruits sleep on a coaches couch!?
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 6:25 pm to
Last I heard is that sanctions will be announced in November. But then I heard September before that, so we will see ..
Posted by Publicschoolkid
Member since Nov 2020
94 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 6:27 pm to
Seems to me if sanctions from Title IX were coming they could have fired the coach with cause and not paid him 20 million.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21472 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 6:28 pm to
Orgeron is being paid for his silence
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7121 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 6:28 pm to
I think it will definitely impact the situation considering it isn't only an ncaa investigation. It's ncaa, dept of education, fbi, class action lawsuit, and a new woke president. LSU struck out on Herman and Fisher last time and had to settle for Orgeron and his binder.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52190 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 6:29 pm to
Everything about the O firing suggests to me that LSU doesn't expect any kind of significant sanctions.

The NCAA has lost alot of its teeth even in the last 5 years.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11654 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 6:31 pm to
Coach O knows a few things about this and that so don't think he doesn't have some leverage in this deal.

LSU isn't paying Ed 17 million just because they want to do the right thing.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52190 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 6:31 pm to
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I think it will definitely impact the situation considering it isn't only an ncaa investigation. It's ncaa, dept of education, fbi, class action lawsuit, and a new woke president


The NCAA is basically the only thing that would potentially hinder hiring a good coach.

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LSU struck out on Herman and Fisher last time and had to settle for Orgeron and his binder.


You mean when Joe Alleva was "the search?"
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52190 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 6:33 pm to
quote:

Coach O knows a few things about this and that so don't think he doesn't have some leverage in this deal.

LSU isn't paying Ed 17 million just because they want to do the right thing.


If O knew anything he'd have blurted it out in a press conference already.

Any potential issues at LSU happened far above his head.
Posted by lastfan
Houston
Member since Nov 2015
7732 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 6:34 pm to
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Orgeron is being paid for his silence

There’s probably some truth to this. Both sides probably know enough shite about each other that could really damage the other party.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11654 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 6:35 pm to
That 17 million says otherwise.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52190 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 6:35 pm to
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Orgeron is being paid for his silence





So LSU is paying any coach who was on the staff at that time for their silence?

Just how many folks is that?
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118798 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 6:37 pm to
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LSU Coach



I think they bring Les back after whiffing a couple of times.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52190 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 6:37 pm to
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That 17 million says otherwise.






He was fired without cause

It isn't like they have an option whether or not to pay him.

A contract is a legally binding agreement.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7121 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 6:40 pm to
quote:

I think it will definitely impact the situation considering it isn't only an ncaa investigation. It's ncaa, dept of education, fbi, class action lawsuit, and a new woke president


The NCAA is basically the only thing that would potentially hinder hiring a good coach.


The point is that there is so much going down at LSU, and with a new liberal president too, that a coach doesn't know for sure what sort of program and how much freedom he will or will not have to run things the way he wants to run things. Some coaches might take the chance. Others, more likely those who have or might later have other good options, are less likely to take that chance.

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52190 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 6:43 pm to
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The point is that there is so much going down at LSU, and with a new liberal president too, that a coach doesn't know for sure what sort of program and how much freedom he will or will not have to run things the way he wants to run things. Some coaches might take the chance. Others, more likely those who have or might later have other good options, are less likely to take that chance.


Again, the NCAA is basically the only party that could effect any of that.

As for having a liberal president, nearly every university president is "liberal."

The vast majority of college football players these days would be considered "woke" or "liberal."
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7121 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 6:45 pm to
It's pointless to even try to discuss it with you. You're either clueless about the reality of it or just want to spin it away.
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 6:46 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52190 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 6:46 pm to
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It's pointless to even try to discuss it with you. You're either clueless about the realities of it or just want to spin it away.






You're the one trying to pretend an alleged FBI investigation into the basketball program is going to affect the hiring of a football coach.

Weird logic.

It hasn't even been confirmed that the FBI is actively investigating LSU.
Posted by Publicschoolkid
Member since Nov 2020
94 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 6:50 pm to
Maybe I'm wearing my red and blue glasses, but right now with allegations/investigation, firing of back to back NC winning coaches, and the unrest in Baton Rouge, it doesn't seem like a top 10 job this year.

Usually, I regard it as one of the easiest jobs in college football with the talent pool and lack of instate rival.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52190 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 6:56 pm to
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firing of back to back NC winning coaches, 


Why is this seen as a bad thing?

It isn't like those guys were fired for not meeting unrealistic expectations.

It isn't like they were considered great coaches in their other stops.

Any of the current candidates for the job will believe that they're a better coach than either of those guys and thus can do a better job.

I wouldn't be worried about taking a position at a company that fired the previous guy for never showing up for work.
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