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re: Lot of good information on Twitter wrt Guice
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:05 pm to SidewalkTiger
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:05 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Who do you want them to interview?
Players? The accused? Coaches?
You ever worked at an actual company?
This shite happens at those too.
In corporate world, HR needs documentation to protect themselves.
In University world, universities need similar documentation to meet federal requirements.
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:06 pm to WilliamTaylor21
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I prefer White House 2.0
You are tGoat, man.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:07 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
You’ve been doing cartwheels since this morning over this lmao
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:07 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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Players? The accused? Coaches?
Its not clear if the second woman ever even named Guice.
Not sure what a one sided interview process accomplishes if the person making the allegations doesn't tell their side.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:09 pm to hg
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You’ve been doing cartwheels since this morning over this lmao
I have not.
Just hate that this shite happens and it makes the whole conference look bad.
Not to mention, if you actually read into it, it sounds like it completely ruined the girls’ lives. For what? A guy that grew up to be a women beater?
All LSU had to do was comply and likely nothing would have come of it.
The problem now is that there is a high profile incident with this player that leads credence to these two allegations
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:10 pm to tiger81
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Your woman beater Jeff Simmons
Wasn’t happy about him making the team after that incident.
Nice try though.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:10 pm to lsupride87
Sexual assault victims quite frequently do not report the assaults due to embarrassment and the stigma associated with it. It’s hardly proof of innocence
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:11 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
quote:What you are sayin makes zero sense
Players? The accused? Coaches?
You ever worked at an actual company?
This shite happens at those too.
In corporate world, HR needs documentation to protect themselves.
In University world, universities need similar documentation to meet federal requirements.
If I call the university of Alabama, and say “Najee raped Jane doe”
And Bama follows up with Jane doe and she says she doesn’t want to talk about anything and doesn’t do anything, Bama still has to do a formal investigation? That’s nuts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:12 pm to Rip Torn
quote:Where did I say it’s proof of any innocence?
Sexual assault victims quite frequently do not report the assaults due to embarrassment and the stigma associated with it. It’s hardly proof of innocence
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:13 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Not sure what a one sided interview process accomplishes if the person making the allegations doesn't tell their side.
It’s not necessarily one sided.
Obviously the victim needs to definitively tell their story, but all it really takes is for enough players to throw him under the bus. At that point the victim just needs to provide a few sentences.
These investigations don’t have criminal repercussions. - it’s not as high a burden of proof.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:14 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
quote:Which is terrifying
These investigations don’t have criminal repercussions. - it’s not as high a burden of proof.
The single worst thing Obama did was his title ix changes. He ruined plenty of innocent lives, and mainly black males ironically enough
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:15 pm to lsupride87
If in your mind it isn’t proof of innocence then why are you defending him?
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:15 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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These investigations don’t have criminal repercussions. - it’s not as high a burden of proof.
Thanks Obama
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:16 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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Obviously the victim needs to definitively tell their story
Problem #1 if they refuse to cooperate.
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all it really takes is for enough players to throw him under the bus.
How? Were they in the room or apartment when the alleged abuse occurred?
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At that point the victim just needs to provide a few sentences
So, LSU should have approached the women again after they already declined to file a complaint?
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:17 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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Both reporters are explicitly sticking behind the accusation that LSU did not investigate either allegation.
Not sure if the *reporters* know that LSU football operations is not a police department. Maybe the young ladies should, you know, go to the police. That's sort of the thing that the the police exist to do while LSU coaches kind of just draw up plays, plan offensive strategies, and whatnot.
In short: A victim needs to go to a police department as quickly as possible after the crime is perpetrated. If they do not then they have lost the police departments ability to collect evidence. The more you know...
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:18 pm to lsupride87
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If I call the university of Alabama, and say “Najee raped Jane doe”
I mean, if Jane Doe says “it didn’t happen”, the investigation is likely over.
Not sure if there is legal wiggle room with suspect people reporting incidents, but if a staff is made aware of it - even by another student reporting it, it must be formally reported to the Title IX office and investigated via interviews.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:20 pm to Rip Torn
quote:frick Guice
If in your mind it isn’t proof of innocence then why are you defending him?
Not defending that dude at all
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:22 pm to lsupride87
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Which is terrifying
The Title IX burden of proof is significantly higher than the burden of proof in corporate America
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The single worst thing Obama did was his title ix changes.
Disagree with it, it’s still the law.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:23 pm to stickly
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In short: A victim needs to go to a police department as quickly as possible after the crime is perpetrated.
Neither of these would have resulted in a criminal conviction.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:23 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
quote:bullshite. Title IX investigations have been ruining lives since Obama weaponized it.
A Title IX investigation wouldn’t have ruined his life.
In this case it would have fair, but Title IX has fricked over many of guys over the past 10 years.
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 7:25 pm
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