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re: Lost and forgotten: The BCS Rankings
Posted on 6/24/19 at 5:12 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Posted on 6/24/19 at 5:12 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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The 2007 season was so ridiculous, no poll was going to get #1 vs. #2 right
2007 joins 1984 as the years no one wanted to win it.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 5:17 pm to BHMKyle
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#22 Texas A&M; #23 Texas Tech
Both were unranked at the time of the final BCS poll.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 5:21 pm to I Bleed Garnet
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I liked just everyone fighting for the final 2 spots
I did too. The BCS system was ruthless. You lose one game, you better hope some teams ahead of you get upset.
Even if you don’t lose a game, you might need to hope the teams on your schedule win a lot.
Now can anyone even pick out two losses on Clemson or Alabama’s schedule?
Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:41 pm to AndyWoods
Because trying to create a math formula to compare disparate combinations of sporting events is fricking moronic.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:43 pm to BHMKyle
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Because ESPN wants to pick the teams, and the Committee is there to make sure that a Baylor or a TCU do not get in over a program like Ohio State or Alabama.
The Hypothetical BCS top 4 and the Playoff Final 4 have been the identical every year
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:03 pm to King
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have it on good authority that Saban wanted the computer polls done away with. They were not factoring in the Saban effect.
The humans will factor that in and include Bama every year.
Good troll attempt, except you neglected to mention one thing, Bama would have still ranked in the top 4 with the BCS.
I prefer the BCS rankings to determine the playoff!
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:14 pm to AndyWoods
It was so Ohio State could get in more often.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:28 pm to Glorious
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The Hypothetical BCS top 4 and the Playoff Final 4 have been the identical every year
The problem with hypothetical BCS rankings is that the coaches and AP (what the hypotheticals use in place of the Harris poll) are influenced by the playoff committee rankings from the prior week.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:33 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
BCS top four would be better than any committee.
Honest question, has anyone compared bcs vs. playoff selections?
Honest question, has anyone compared bcs vs. playoff selections?
Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:34 pm to TheDeathValley
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Honest question, has anyone compared bcs vs. playoff selections?
Yes. They’ve always been the same top 4, but like I said above, it’s not really 100% the same calculation.
This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:38 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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The problem with hypothetical BCS rankings is that the coaches and AP (what the hypotheticals use in place of the Harris poll) are influenced by the playoff committee rankings from the prior week.
So is it impossible to know for sure what the original formula would have shown?
Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:48 pm to Glorious
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So is it impossible to know for sure what the original formula would have shown?
I would say so, but I think the hypotheticals are very likely correct.
As an example, the first year of the playoff the committee pretty consistently ranked Florida State below 1 loss Alabama. At first, the AP and coaches did not do that, but they had followed suit by the end of the season. And lots of pollsters even followed the committee by having Oregon over Florida State.
I’m not so sure they do that without a committee doing it first.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 10:56 pm to BHMKyle
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Had Auburn played an FBS like Arkansas State instead of FCS The Citidel, would it really have mattered?
Yes. They originally had Bowling Green scheduled. They backed out and played Oklahoma instead. That would've been just enough to have Auburn at #2.
Getting left out was the best thing for Auburn fans so. They can still talk about "getting screwed" instead of what would've been a beatdown at the hands of USC.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 11:41 pm to NYCAuburn
quote:2003 is a pretty good case for people over computers.
2003 LSU USC AP/BSC issues
2004 What to do when you have more than one team who should go
2011-see 2004 and add rematch, non conference champion
SEC dominance, dont really need to explain this
I'm not actually taling about the LSU/USC debate, but Oklahoma:
They got skull-drugged 35-7 in the Big 12 championship. I know, one game, yada yada... but that was the worst loss by any of the 3 teams, and it was also the most recent. There should have been some consequences.
And there were some common games between the 3-
LSU beat Alabama 27-3 on the road.
Oklahoma beat Alabama 20-13 on the road.
LSU beat Arizona 59-13 on the road, beat Auburn 31-7 at home
USC beat Arizona 45-0 on the road, beat Auburn 23-0 on the road
USC beat UCLA 47-22, Oklahoma beat UCLA 59-24.
You look at the overall picture, and those 3 teams were closely matched, instead of Oklahoma being head-and-shoulders above the others.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 1:37 am to Scoob
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2003 is a pretty good case for people over computers.
So is 2001.
2001 should have been Miami/Oregon or Miami/Colorado for the title. Nebraska was beaten 62-26 by Colorado in their regular season finale and didn't even win their own division.
Nebraska was FOURTH in both the AP and Coaches poll, but somehow was #2 in the BCS rankings.
This post was edited on 6/25/19 at 1:38 am
Posted on 6/25/19 at 7:59 am to NYCAuburn
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SEC dominance, dont really need to explain this
If not for Clemson, we'd be encountering push back to expand the playoffs already because of this exact same reason. Two years ago we had an all SEC final. The game was the most exciting playoff finale to date though, so it didn't get as much flack either.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 8:30 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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2003 is a pretty good case for people over computers.
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So is 2001.
Yeah, imagine what happens if the do not shut down HAL?
Posted on 6/25/19 at 8:36 am to Korin
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Getting left out was the best thing for Auburn fans so. They can still talk about "getting screwed" instead of what would've been a beatdown at the hands of USC.
The #1 defense in the country and 4 1st round draft picks weren't getting beatdown by anyone.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 8:42 am to Korin
quote:This is so stupid, to me. If not for greed, why else?
changed it to 33% media
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