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Knoxville and East Tennessee were pro Union

Posted on 6/20/20 at 12:25 pm
Posted by Serraneaux
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Posted on 6/20/20 at 12:25 pm
They helped win the war. Admiral Farragut was ahead of his time.

Next you baws are in Knoxville educate yourself and visit Heritage Square and snap a pic with the Alex Haley statue.
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 6/20/20 at 12:29 pm to
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Admiral Farragut was ahead of his time
Posted by Serraneaux
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Posted on 6/20/20 at 12:30 pm to
Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!
Posted by Mithridates6
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Posted on 6/20/20 at 12:38 pm to
Parson Brownlow of Knoxville (who was imprisoned by the Confederates at one point) defiantly flew the stars and stripes from his house throughout the war
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Let no man into whose hands my letters may fall, believe for a moment I will ever desert the STARS and STRIPES

This post was edited on 6/20/20 at 12:43 pm
Posted by MizzouTrue
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Posted on 6/20/20 at 12:46 pm to
The Missouri Tigers also fought for the North. They scared the guerillas away from Columbia
Posted by Mithridates6
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Posted on 6/20/20 at 1:07 pm to
Without the German immigrants in Saint Louis, that state might have seceded. Same for Louisville and KY
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 6/20/20 at 1:38 pm to
White guilt bothering you?
Posted by Smokeyone
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Posted on 6/20/20 at 1:44 pm to
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They helped win the war. Admiral Farragut was ahead of his time.

Next you baws are in Knoxville educate yourself and visit Heritage Square and snap a pic with the Alex Haley statue.



It was a divided area that sent troops to both armies and had guerrilla freighters killing both sides when they entered the mountains. It was mostly confederate for the first couple years and was not easily occupied by union troops.

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My family was an original Cade’s cove and chestnut flats family that got eminent domained twice in a generation and eventually ended up in Walland. Many folks believe they were subject to eminent domain because they did not support the federal troops.


Posted by Mithridates6
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Posted on 6/20/20 at 2:00 pm to
The Union army bypassed it because until late in the war unfortunately for strategic reasons. The confederates had to institute martial law to keep the people in line. When the US Army finally liberated Knoxville, northern soldiers remarked that the Tennesseans were much more patriotic than themselves
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Posted by Che Boludo
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Posted on 6/20/20 at 2:04 pm to
most of the Tennessee River Valley was rather Union friendly.

ETA: 1st Alabama Cavalary and Alabama & Tennessee independent Vidette Cavalry are largely ignored but speak to the strong Union support in those areas.

Grant used that support to his advantage in movement across the south.
This post was edited on 6/20/20 at 2:24 pm
Posted by 4Ghost
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Posted on 6/20/20 at 2:20 pm to
Northeast Alabama remained loyal to the Union.
Posted by Che Boludo
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Posted on 6/20/20 at 2:29 pm to
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Northeast Alabama remained loyal to the Union.

Much of North Alabama and Southern Central TN as well.

Stevenson and Bridgeport AL were the recruiting sites for much of the Tennessee and Alabama southern unionists. Huntsville and Sand Mountain for the 1st Alabama Cavalry. Even in NW AL, Winston Co was the only CO to vote against secession with most every abled body man going into hiding later to avoid conscription or joining the 1st Alabama Cavalry. The support between Florence Al to Savannah TN was crucial along the TN River as the rocky shoals and smoother areas that made suitable fording sites there were the easiest point to cross forces on the river. It is the area where the largest grouping of Cavalry soldiers ever mustered for the US. It is also largely why Grant HQ'd in Savannah before Shiloh.
This post was edited on 6/20/20 at 2:32 pm
Posted by InGAButLoveBama
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Posted on 6/20/20 at 2:30 pm to
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Knoxville and East Tennessee were pro UnionPosted on 6/20/20 at 12:25 pm
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They helped win the war. Admiral Farragut was ahead of his time.

Next you baws are in Knoxville educate yourself and visit Heritage Square and snap a pic with the Alex Haley statue.


Haley was a plagiarist, but honor who you want to I guess.
Posted by Mithridates6
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Posted on 6/20/20 at 2:38 pm to
Winston and surrounding counties in AL just wanted to be left alone, but the Confederates tried to conscript men there who largely owned no slaves and didn't want to fight for plantation owners, so they joined the US Army. LINK
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surrounded by a most relentless foe, mostly unarmed and destitute of ammunition, they are persecuted in every conceivable way yet up to this time most of them have kept out of the way sufficiently to avoid being dragged off by the gangs that infest the country for the purpose of plunder and enforcing the provisions of the rebel conscription act. Their horses and cattle are driven off in vast numbers. Every public road is patrolled by guerilla bands, and the Union men have been compelled to seek protection in the fastnesses of the mountainous wilderness...When it is taken into consideration that these people were all hid to avoid being taken by the rebels
This post was edited on 6/20/20 at 3:46 pm
Posted by Che Boludo
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Posted on 6/20/20 at 3:12 pm to
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surrounded by a most relentless foe, mostly unarmed and destitute of ammunition, they are persecuted in every conceivable way yet up to this time most of them have kept out of the way sufficiently to avoid being dragged off by the gangs that infest the country for the purpose of plunder and enforcing the provisions of the rebel conscription act. Their horses and cattle are driven off in vast numbers. Every public road is patrolled by guerilla bands, and the Union men have been compelled to seek protection in the fastnesses of the mountainous wilderness...When it is taken into consideration that these people were all hid to avoid being taken by the rebels

I have a pretty good collection of my family history, which includes a lot of primary source accounts of the Civil War and how tough it was for those that opposed war in the South.

A direct descendant of mine was the preacher who gave the invocation at one of the county seat meetings to discuss seccession. I think I have shared here before, but he essentially said that he "just can't see fighting against the flag that George Washington fought for." He was also at Looney's Tavern, where the opposition against seccession from the Union was so strong it left a sentiment that they felt Winston Co would subsequently have the right to secede from Alabama... which later gave reference to the Free State of Winston. And, in accord with COL Streight's account, most wanted to just be left out of it. They didn't want to fight against family and they didn't want to fight against the Union.

It was a lose-lose. Northern patrols were cautious and treated them as insurgent sympathizers and would steal all of their supplies, crops and animals. Southern patrols regarded them as traitors.

My mentioned relative had 3 sons that would fight for the 1st Alabama Cavalry. A nephew that fought as well and was killed after returning home by a Texan CSA officer who branded him a coward and traitor when he refused conscription on the basis he had volunteered, fought and served a contract with 1st Alabama Cavalry.
This post was edited on 6/20/20 at 3:18 pm
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 6/20/20 at 3:17 pm to
So was the free state of Jones in Mississippi.
Posted by Ted2010
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Posted on 6/20/20 at 3:22 pm to
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Admiral Farragut


Legit Boss
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
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Posted on 6/20/20 at 3:36 pm to
Thanks for sharing, I wish HS American History was taught on the level you just shared with us

Took a lot of stones to be your people back in the day
This post was edited on 6/20/20 at 3:41 pm
Posted by Mithridates6
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Posted on 6/20/20 at 3:54 pm to
The wiregrass country of Alabama, Florida and Georgia were also full of deserters and draft-resisters. They weren't necessarily pro-Union and would bushwack Union army units as well, but definitely didn't want to be conscripted by the CSA.

Here in south La, there was widespread resistance to the CSA conscription among Cajuns and Creoles who mostly spoke French and considered the civil war to be none of their business, they called it the War Among Americans. They didn't want to fight for the Union or the CSA
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This post was edited on 6/20/20 at 3:55 pm
Posted by morriscat2
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Posted on 6/20/20 at 4:07 pm to
You got to be a transplant. I have never heard of native Tennesseans being proud of the pro union sentiment in East Tennesseans.Not even East Tennesseans. Bristol and Kingsport were solid for the confederacy. Maryville, and I believe Knoxville West High School, are the Rebels. And by the way, Knox county was splint down the middle in its sympathies. The county vote to leave the Union was 50/50. Farragut was born there but moved away at 2 years of age to New Orleans. His political loyalties were hardly shaped in Tennessee.
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