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re: Kevin Sumlin: Better Coach than A&M is as a program
Posted on 11/23/17 at 2:30 am to jodeaux
Posted on 11/23/17 at 2:30 am to jodeaux
Let's look at a few numbers.
51-25 at A&M, .671: not terrible.
After the best player in A&M history left:
31-19, 62%, still not terrible.
But then we come to the fun stuff. SEC record after Manziel:
2014 3-5
2015 4-4
2016 4-4
2017 4-3, will almost certainly be 4-4 after Saturday.
And then there is the particularly ugly stuff, the SEC home record not including JerryWorld:
2014 0-3
2015 2-2
2016 1-2
2017 0-3
A&M lost 4 home games in the 90's under RC. Four. In a decade. They lost one in '89 and not again until '95. I don't think the above is what the AD had in mind when they spent half a billion on a stadium renovation. I think this rankles Aggies as bad as anything. Well that, and 59-0 and losing by 1 to a bad Ole Miss last year and blowing a 44-10 lead at UCLA and not showing up against MSU this year. Just off the top of my head.
I wish him well, but it is past time for a change.
51-25 at A&M, .671: not terrible.
After the best player in A&M history left:
31-19, 62%, still not terrible.
But then we come to the fun stuff. SEC record after Manziel:
2014 3-5
2015 4-4
2016 4-4
2017 4-3, will almost certainly be 4-4 after Saturday.
And then there is the particularly ugly stuff, the SEC home record not including JerryWorld:
2014 0-3
2015 2-2
2016 1-2
2017 0-3
A&M lost 4 home games in the 90's under RC. Four. In a decade. They lost one in '89 and not again until '95. I don't think the above is what the AD had in mind when they spent half a billion on a stadium renovation. I think this rankles Aggies as bad as anything. Well that, and 59-0 and losing by 1 to a bad Ole Miss last year and blowing a 44-10 lead at UCLA and not showing up against MSU this year. Just off the top of my head.
I wish him well, but it is past time for a change.
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Posted on 11/23/17 at 3:10 am to A LeBlanc
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Tje fact is that Herman was the only coach ever who pulled in a 5 star recruit at a non P5 except of course BYU and ND.
Not only is that a false statement, but Herman wasn't even the first one.
DeAndre Brown (5-star) signed with Southern Miss (Larry Fedora) in the 2008 class.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 3:14 am to cave canem
We can expand it to the top 73 list if lil ole State wants to feel included
Posted on 11/23/17 at 3:26 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Consensus .
ESPN recruiting had him ranked much lower then the other services.
LINK
ESPN recruiting had him ranked much lower then the other services.
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This post was edited on 11/23/17 at 3:29 am
Posted on 11/23/17 at 3:44 am to A LeBlanc
Whoever A&M brings in should continue what Herman has started at UT and that is the Texas first mindset.
Herman used the Houston first mindset at Houston to bring in Ed Oliver
If both A&M and UT create that Texas first mindset into high school players they will no longer have to worry about outside programs like Ohio St and Oregon getting into Texas.
Ohio St got their hand slap with Anthony Cook and Oregon is up to their old tricks again but luckily a 2019 5 star WR decommited from them a couple of weeks ago.
Herman used the Houston first mindset at Houston to bring in Ed Oliver
If both A&M and UT create that Texas first mindset into high school players they will no longer have to worry about outside programs like Ohio St and Oregon getting into Texas.
Ohio St got their hand slap with Anthony Cook and Oregon is up to their old tricks again but luckily a 2019 5 star WR decommited from them a couple of weeks ago.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 5:03 am to jodeaux
You forgot to include LSU
They haven't been able to compete against LSU ..6 straight loses ...lol
They haven't been able to compete against LSU ..6 straight loses ...lol
Posted on 11/23/17 at 9:19 am to DirtyDawg
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s that why we’re in the top 11 nationally in all time wins? Hmmm interdasting
114 years of playing football. 779 total wins.
Math is hard I know but give it a shot.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 9:30 am to Aggie_2463
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mediocrity isn’t what we want
You can't do any better though.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 9:30 am to finestfirst79
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A&M lost 4 home games in the 90's under RC. Four. In a decade
1990 was 27 years ago, that was when OU and UT were in probation and LSU was a mess. A&M was better but still not elite. Never won or even seriously competed for a NC.
Now what about the Big 12 years? Wasn’t winning at home an issue there also? With more than one coach?
So maybe it’s an issue that trascends Sumlin.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 9:32 am to finestfirst79
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A&M lost 4 home games in the 90's under RC.
Y'all were cheating like hell and didn't play anybody worth anything except OU at Kyle
Posted on 11/23/17 at 9:33 am to r2d2
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it’s an issue that trascends Sumlin
1. Little brother school/mentality
2. Weird, creepy culture
3. Ugly campus
4. Podunk redneck town
And they wonder why they are where they are
Posted on 11/23/17 at 9:41 am to jodeaux
HAPPY THANKSGIVING Mrs Sumlin
Posted on 11/23/17 at 9:51 am to A LeBlanc
The Texas 1st mindset is the reason Texas and A&M suck. Texas has a lot of talent, but the kids are soft. The old saying that good times create weak men is mostly true. The kids from Texas on average are just not as tough as those from LA, AL, MS, GA, FL, and SC.
A&M was never able to put together a team that could man up against the run and they had a lot of diva drama at the QB position. They weren't tough enough at other positions to overcome the QB play.
A&M was never able to put together a team that could man up against the run and they had a lot of diva drama at the QB position. They weren't tough enough at other positions to overcome the QB play.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 9:56 am to BhamDore
You sir, are correct. TXHSFB is all spread out which makes QBs look better than they really are, weak defensive front sevens and receivers that don’t know how to block for a pro-style offense.
Then Aggy and Texas do the same thing and wonder why they get run through by any team with a tough OL and solid running game.
Then Aggy and Texas do the same thing and wonder why they get run through by any team with a tough OL and solid running game.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:00 am to r2d2
I was in school during the first 4 years of the Big 12. A&M lost a grand total of 3 home games during that timeframe and none after my freshman year.
That included wins over:
#19 Oklahoma State
#2 Nebraska
#25 Texas Tech
#13 Missouri
#5 t.u.
That included wins over:
#19 Oklahoma State
#2 Nebraska
#25 Texas Tech
#13 Missouri
#5 t.u.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:01 am to A LeBlanc
From 2002-2010, the service of choice was Rivals. You never specified consensus and the ruling is upheld.
T-sip alter loses a timeout.
T-sip alter loses a timeout.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:03 am to r2d2
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1990 was 27 years ago, that was when OU and UT were in probation and LSU was a mess. A&M was better but still not elite. Never won or even seriously competed for a NC.
This statement is so blatantly disingenuous it's hard to determine if you are trolling of just plain stupid.
First of all, tu was never on probation...EVER. Second, OU wasn't on probation as severely as A&M was in 1994. Third, LSU was strong in the late 80's and OU dominant when A&M began its run under Sherrill. A&M may not have been elite, but we won our conference 6 times from '86 to '93, and dominated anyone we played at home. What more could we have done besides join the SEC with Arkansas in 1991?
FWIW, we did manage to win the XII in 1998 during the time of Nebraska dominance. It wasn't until Brown, Stoops, and Saben were hired, coinciding with RC's lackadaisicalness, that we had our downtown that lasted through the 2000s.
It is evident that Sumlin has righted the ship but cannot take it to the next level. That is what this is about.
It is also "about" how people like you are utterly stupid, braindead, and full of shite.
We lost a total of ZERO home games during my time at A&M from 1990 to 1994. We played our schedule, and that was that.
Don't post what you know nothing about.
Thanks in advance.
This post was edited on 11/23/17 at 10:33 am
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:10 am to jodeaux
I agree, Sumlins team scores points. They should refocus on hiring a very stout DC.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:16 am to The Balinese Club
I made a factual mistake with probation for UT but they certainly were bad.
You deflected and didn’t address the main thing... wasn’t winning at home also an issue in the Big 12? Not saying every season there, but at least the last 3-4 years? Was Sumlin the coach?
You deflected and didn’t address the main thing... wasn’t winning at home also an issue in the Big 12? Not saying every season there, but at least the last 3-4 years? Was Sumlin the coach?
Posted on 11/23/17 at 10:17 am to NFLSU
And that is why we need a change...
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