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Kentucky, Arkansas, Mizzou or SCar?

Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:53 pm
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:53 pm
Which of these FB programs has a higher "ceiling?"

Unlike the others, Arkansas had a long history of success for being in a small state before joining the SEC. They were the #2 program for most of their time in the SWC. AR doesn't produce many FBS caliber players, but they have a ton of resources and are nextdoor to Texas, which produces the most NFL players in the country. I'm inclined to go with them despite being in the tougher division.

Kentucky FB has actually had good fan support despite their history I believe. But they're in a basketball-centric state/region. The state doesn't produce much FB talent at all. Stoops has a good thing going there though

Missouri has some good recent history highlighted by back to back East titles. Not much before that apparently. However, they seem to give off a Big 10 West feel as a Midwestern school that doesn't aspire to be a FB power. Their state and its vicinity does seem to produce enough talent to sustain a contender though.

SCar- Really don't know much about them, but they didn't win a bowl game until 1995. Had a solid run with Spurrier from 2010-14, but no major bowl wins iirc. They are the "little brother" in a small state (historically and currently) and also next door to UGA. They've produced some great players like Sterling Sharpe, Jadeveon Clowney and George Rogers. Clemson's awesome run since 2014 can't help :0
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 11:10 pm
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30250 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 10:01 pm to
Arkansas because Wallmarks throws that money around campus.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95854 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 10:08 pm to
Arkansas until proven otherwise

Although I don’t think any of them have a high ceiling
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
18946 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 10:08 pm to
Being in the West puts us at a disadvantage from the other three.

Kentucky has the edge right now.

They have had patience with the coaching and it is paying off.
Posted by scionofadrunk
Williamson County, TN
Member since Mar 2020
1961 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 10:09 pm to
Arkansas got that dough tho
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
18946 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 10:12 pm to
Dough don't mean crap without coaching and playing in the west.

Hopefully Sam will get us back to competitive.
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 10:14 pm to
Yep, love what Stoops is doing there. The 1990s would've been an ideal time for Ark. to do damage since the West was relatively weak from my memory. Apparently yall were already on the decline from winning the SWC in 1989 before joining the SEC. I'm sure you know more details there
Posted by LakeChuckTiger89
Lake Charles, Louisiana
Member since Sep 2012
651 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 10:28 pm to
quote:

Dough don't mean crap without coaching and playing in the west.


Texas A&M will concur..
Posted by scionofadrunk
Williamson County, TN
Member since Mar 2020
1961 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 10:29 pm to
Pittboss is a good hire. I want to see him do well.
Posted by Hellmet
Member since Nov 2015
519 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 10:44 pm to
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Arkansas because Wallmarks throws that money around campus.


Actually, Walmart gives very little to athletics. Most of their donations are on the academics side. We have plenty of money though from a couple of other large corporations.
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 10:54 pm to
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and currently and also next door to UGA.


I'm assuming that was supposed to say "and currently are also next door to UGA."

Which begs the question.. Is one of us considering moving?
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 10:56 pm to
I meant historically and currently the "little brother" in a small state. Feel free to correct me on that, I know little of yalls history
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
18946 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 10:59 pm to
I didn't know that Sam grew up a Hog fan.He seems to really appreciate being here and knows what SEC talent looks like.

I feel like we're in the best hands we've been in for a very long time.

Go Sam,And Go Hogs.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 10:59 pm to
There’s just too much competition for recruits in the Blue Belt. I’m glad to see Coach Stoops canvassing the Midwest for 3 and 4 star players. The SEC and ACC have the South completely covered. The only competition in the Midwest is the B1G.
Posted by Gixxerj90
Columbia
Member since Jan 2019
484 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 11:23 pm to
We will be back baw
Posted by AirRaidTT
Grapevine, TX
Member since May 2008
2683 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 11:29 pm to
quote:

I meant historically and currently the "little brother" in a small state. Feel free to correct me on that, I know little of yalls history


Clemson owns the series, but SC isn’t exactly “little brother” - they’re the tFlagship school - established 90 years before Clemson - and made Clemson travel to Columbia annually for the first 65 years of the series just because they could.

It’s actually one of the more fascinating in-state rivalries in all of CFB
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14843 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 11:37 pm to
Missouri! Missouri new head coach have been both South Carolina and North Carolina with lesser players.
Also Missouri defensive coaches are back from last year.
The offense was the weakest link. Missouri brought in an offensive head coach that runs a pretty good offense.
Posted by McMillan
Member since Jul 2018
5866 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 11:44 pm to
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However, they seem to give off a Big 10 West feel as a Midwestern school that doesn't aspire to be a FB power.


The BOT, not Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Illinois, etc, has been and will always be MU’s biggest rival. Tom Osborne and everyone else knew the potential the program had BUT them.
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 11:48 pm to
I agree. It is not a recruiting hotbed like south Florida but from the outside looking in, it seems like the region from Kansas to Missouri to Illinois produces enough talent to sustain a solid program. Especially now that y'all are in the SEC.
Posted by McMillan
Member since Jul 2018
5866 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 11:53 pm to
And Illinois is an even bigger disappointment. They should’ve been cleaning up Chicago from the get go. So far, Drinkwitz is doing well, but I fear the obstacles like many before him will be too much to overcome.
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 11:56 pm
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