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Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:02 pm to Drewbie
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You realize Arkansas won the SEC before DVH was even hired right?
Yes. And Missouri has been to CWS 6 times, and they used to play with wooden bats.
DVH has been there a long time and a lot has changed. Ask South Carolina and others. It's not just automatic that you can plug in the next guy. That's all I'm saying
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:05 pm to Vecchio Cane
quote:You can say that about literally any program.
It's not just automatic that you can plug in the next guy. That's all I'm saying
I'm saying it's uneducated to assume DVH is the only reason Arkansas is successful given the track record of success long before he got there.
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:09 pm to Vecchio Cane
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If this is the case then I'd rank them: Florida/LSU and then everyone else.
I'm not sure that just anyone could do what Corbin has done at Vandy. He's made them a premier program, imo.
I think MSU is the only other program that has proven to be bigger than just the current coach. How do we know what Arkansas will be without DVH, or Ole Miss without Bianco?
THIS.
One measure of program quality is success under different regimes vs just being really good with the current coach.
LSU and Florida have made the CWS under multiple regimes. And they have national championships, so they're at the top.
Vandy is a TOP program under Corbin, but they haven't made a CWS with anyone else. A lot of schools have similar scholarship advantages as Vandy but haven't sustained success.
Beginning in 1971, State made the College World Series under Paul Gregory, Polk, McMahon, Polk II, Cohen, and Cann/Henderson. And Lemonis has State as a probable national seed. Those are all of our coaches during that time.
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:12 pm to NoNotMe
you dumbasses realize that KR says shite for clicks.
he's likely got his pants around his ankles now seeing all the traffic hits due to SEC rant.
he's likely got his pants around his ankles now seeing all the traffic hits due to SEC rant.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:13 pm to MedDawg
quote:Beginning in 1970 our coaches have been Norm Debriyn and Dave Van Horn. Both have made Omaha multiple times. Where's the difference other than Arkansas' job is more stable?
Beginning in 1971, State made the College World Series under Paul Gregory, Polk, McMahon, Polk II, Cohen, and Cann/Henderson. And Lemonis has State as a probable national seed. Those are all of our coaches during that time.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:15 pm to Drewbie
How can you say arkansas job is more stable? Other than polk our previous coaches are our athletic director, couldn’t keep their pants on, or sucked.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:16 pm to Hailstate15
quote:7 coaching changes vs. 2....
How can you say arkansas job is more stable?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:17 pm to Drewbie
Once again read what I said. You are the stupidest hog fan I think I have seen on this board
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:18 pm to Hailstate15
quote:And you think having triple the coaching changes somehow doesn't make your head coaching position less stable. I love Mississippi folk.
Once again read what I said. You are the stupidest hog fan I think I have seen on this board
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:31 pm to Drewbie
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I love Mississippi folk.
Hey, I didn't understand that either
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:33 pm to Vecchio Cane
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:34 pm to Drewbie
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Beginning in 1970 our coaches have been Norm Debriyn and Dave Van Horn. Both have made Omaha multiple times. Where's the difference other than Arkansas' job is more stable?
I wasn't arguing against Arkansas, that was another State poster. MSU and Arkansas have similar CWS histories (80's, 90's 2000's), big fanbases, and players in the pros, so I would call the programs about even. We were even both eliminated by Oregon State last year in the CWS. I don't think Arkansas is or has clearly been a better baseball program than State.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:37 pm to MedDawg
quote:Remove us from this one. We took a break from Omaha in the 90's
MSU and Arkansas have similar CWS histories (80's, 90's 2000's)
quote:Overall, absolutely not. Extremely even in many areas as has been showcased before. The take about being a one-coach program was pretty piping hot, though.
I don't think Arkansas is or has clearly been a better baseball program than State.
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:39 pm to 1801
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here's the tally since y'all have been in the SEC together ...
SEC regular season trophies - MSU 1 ARK 2
SEC tournament trophies - MSU 3 ARK 0
SEC West 1st place - MSU 1 ARK 4
SEC tournament records (all-time) - MSU 65-53(.551) ARK 33-40(.452)
NCAA appearances - MSU 20 ARK 20
Regional champs - MSU 10 ARK 7
CWS appearances - MSU 5 ARK 5
CWS Runner-up - MSU 1 ARK 1
CWS titles - MSU 0 ARK 0
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**SEC all-time win % - MSU .537 ARK .515
**Overall all-time win % - MSU .630 ARK .615
State's and Arkansas' baseball accomplishments are eerily similar. We should play in the CWS finals for a tiebreaker.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:41 pm to Drewbie
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The take about being a one-coach program was pretty piping hot, though.
I agree. Arkansas has done it with more than one coach, which qualifies under my earlier statement about quality programs.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:47 pm to MedDawg
My SEC rankings based on facilities, support, and achievement over the last 30+ years.
1. LSU
2. State
3. Vandy/Carolina/Florida based on their NC's.
Ole Miss
the rest
1. LSU
2. State
3. Vandy/Carolina/Florida based on their NC's.
Ole Miss
the rest
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:05 pm to NoNotMe
I didn't know he was a sports columnist or that his first name was Kendall.
I'm ashamed.
Almost as ashamed as Arkansas ought to be by saying their program is absolutely above ours regarding success; and definitely as ashamed as Kendall should be for saying his beloved Aggies are anything more than a rich kid born with a silver spoon in their mouth who's pissing away daddy's money thinking it'll make em' "hit it big."
(Som' Som', sLeEpInG gIaNt.)
Regardless, he needs to practice what he preaches and know when to hold em & fold em.
And A&M just needs to practice.
(Sports not accounting.)
(Aplogies if I've got the wrong KR. If it's not the "Love the World Away" Kenny- I mean Kendall- then I don't know who TF we're talking about. Thx.)
I'm ashamed.
Almost as ashamed as Arkansas ought to be by saying their program is absolutely above ours regarding success; and definitely as ashamed as Kendall should be for saying his beloved Aggies are anything more than a rich kid born with a silver spoon in their mouth who's pissing away daddy's money thinking it'll make em' "hit it big."
(Som' Som', sLeEpInG gIaNt.)
Regardless, he needs to practice what he preaches and know when to hold em & fold em.
And A&M just needs to practice.
(Sports not accounting.)
(Aplogies if I've got the wrong KR. If it's not the "Love the World Away" Kenny- I mean Kendall- then I don't know who TF we're talking about. Thx.)
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:17 pm to Bigbee Hills
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his beloved Aggies are anything more than a rich kid born with a silver spoon in their mouth who's pissing away daddy's money thinking it'll make em' "hit it big."
I'm not defending Kendall's comments in any way, but what the frick is this supposed to mean?
"Daddy's money" will always help in college sports. You're faulting Aggies for our financial commitment to athletics?
The rich kid with the silver spoon analogy does not apply.
Unlike daddy's money wasted on a talentless rich kid with no chance of ever improving, money in college athletics does work and will improve a program. You can't buy championships, but you sure as frick can buy the stuff necessary for a championship team to be built.
Don't hate us because we got $$$$. Be thankful for the huge increase in your own funding from the SECN.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:17 pm to DuckTalesLOL
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Go look at our baseball series over the last decade.
Check out the all time.
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