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tigeroarz1
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re: Kelly Bryant having a better season Trevor Lawrence
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but I think TL is bored af. He looked at the schedule and the fact he's got to do two more years of playing lesser competition
Honestly I felt this way when watching Deshaun Watson at Clemson. Some games he seemed like he was going through the motions. In games like that Watson and Lawrence’s numbers are similar. Watson barely squeaked out (and lost) games they should’ve creamed the opponent. 2016 season Watson had over 15 interceptions on the season but won the title.
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BHTiger
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re: Kelly Bryant having a better season Trevor Lawrence
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He made a total of 1 good throw vs Alabama. He didn't make mistakes which was good, but he was not pressured or anything all night.



1?

Come on man he had 1 throw that Ross made a ridiculous catch. The on prior was a perfect throw and Ross was being held and could only use 1 hand, the throw was money. To end that drive he threw a strike to Higgins that was incredible.....that was 1 drive alone.

I have watched that game again to see just his throws, he missed 5 throws all night and 2 of those were caught.


ColoradoAg
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re: Kelly Bryant having a better season Trevor Lawrence
Lawrence is rarely really on target, with his WR's making circus catches much of the time


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3down10
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re: Kelly Bryant having a better season Trevor Lawrence
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1?

Come on man he had 1 throw that Ross made a ridiculous catch. The on prior was a perfect throw and Ross was being held and could only use 1 hand, the throw was money. To end that drive he threw a strike to Higgins that was incredible.....that was 1 drive alone.

I have watched that game again to see just his throws, he missed 5 throws all night and 2 of those were caught.




Yes 1.



Another angle of the catch.



I've challenged people to show me all these great throws outside the one, and nobody has been able to deliver.

Most of his yards came against Savion Smith, until he was "injured" in the 3rd quarter. Clemson only managed 7 pts after he left the game - and that is when the play above came from. The great catch Ross had also came on that same drive, I won't post that one since it's all about the great one handed catch.

Huge amount of yards on this play for example. Can't get much easier for a QB can it?




He was throwing to wide open receivers with a really clean pocket all night long. It's a travesty Lawrence gets all the credit when it was really your coaching staff and great O and D line play that won the game.

Wide open receiver with a huge clean pocket:



Clean pocket, open reciever:



The important thing is that he didn't lose the game for Clemson and did a great job taking what was given to him. But for some reason some want to anoint him the greatest QB ever and I'm calling bull shite.

Watson made me say - this QB is kicking our ass. I can go and find amazing plays he was making all game, no problem. I didn't think anything close to that about Lawrence, I saw better coaching and better O and D lines.

But feel free to prove me wrong and post some plays. For some reason nobody ever does.


holdthatVERMIN
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re: Kelly Bryant having a better season Trevor Lawrence
Wyoming. Nothing else really matters.


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Rawanduncut
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re: Kelly Bryant having a better season Trevor Lawrence
The point is what Clemson did to Alabama is the same as what they did to almost everybody else they played last year with the exception of Texas A & M and Syracuse. They blew everybody out the same as they blew Alabama out. Trevor Lawrence and the offense was making plays like that all season if you watched them play enough games. Those wide receivers was a mismatch for everybody they played including Alabama. That was the problem most people couldn't cover them. It was a combination of the quarterback and receivers being great and the team as a whole was great. He hasn't looked as good this year because I don't think their offensive line is as good as last year and people have a year of game film to attack any kind of weaknesses in his game or the team as a whole.


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RogerTempleton
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re: Kelly Bryant having a better season Trevor Lawrence
Clemson needs the QB who can beat elite teams in the CFP, not put up big stats in the regular season.



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TrueLefty
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re: Kelly Bryant having a better season Trevor Lawrence
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quote:Lawrence is great, but most of the hype from his freshman year was generated from his potential as opposed to the offensive numbers he was generating He generated 3300 yards, 30 TD to 4 INT with a 65% completion rate and tore up Notre Dame and Alabama in the playoffs as a true freshman. That's not really just potential, that's a really good season. What people are so surprised about to start this season is he simply hasn't improved at all and arguably is playing worse.


Now that LSU is playing great on offense! I am wondering if that have to do with switching karma for this year from Clemson to LSU?


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Todd O'Connor
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re: Kelly Bryant having a better season Trevor Lawrence
So if a good throw goes to an open WR, its not a good throw anymore?

Isn't a QBs job throwing catchable balls to open received?


schmoo
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re: Kelly Bryant having a better season Trevor Lawrence
you are an idiot if you think kelly Bryant is better than Trevor Lawrence


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3down10
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re: Kelly Bryant having a better season Trevor Lawrence
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So if a good throw goes to an open WR, its not a good throw anymore?

Isn't a QBs job throwing catchable balls to open received?



As I said, he did what was asked of him and didn't lose the game.

It just wasn't some miraculous performance some people made it out to be. A huge number of QB's could have done the same thing.



maninwhitecoat
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re: Kelly Bryant having a better season Trevor Lawrence
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The important thing is that he didn't lose the game for Clemson and did a great job taking what was given to him.


So basically every team in America would have beaten Alabama that night because one guy was slightly injured. That's an admirably ambitious way of denying credit.


Nado Jenkins83
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re: Kelly Bryant having a better season Trevor Lawrence
This is really a good group of QBs coming out in the next few years. I wouldnt doubt a few of them have decent nfl careers


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secuniversity
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re: Kelly Bryant having a better season Trevor Lawrence
Clemson is simply just not as good as last year and there are about 8 QBs better than Lawrence.


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MIZ_COU
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re: Kelly Bryant having a better season Trevor Lawrence
double post
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MIZ_COU
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re: Kelly Bryant having a better season Trevor Lawrence
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But there is a narrative out there that Trevor Lawrence has regressed
Bryant just has better talent around him
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3down10
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So basically every team in America would have beaten Alabama that night because one guy was slightly injured. That's an admirably ambitious way of denying credit.


Weird, I don't remember saying anything remotely close to that.

Maybe you should learn the difference in 1 position and an entire team and staff.

Dip shite.


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Rawanduncut
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re: Kelly Bryant having a better season Trevor Lawrence
A huge # of quarterbacks (14 in all before the Clemson game) all tried to do what Trevor Lawrence and Clemson did to Alabama but they wasn't successful. At some point you just have to give credit where credit is due and acknowledge that Clemson made the plays to win and Trevor Lawrence is a pretty good quarterback whether you like him or not. That doesn't diminish all the other great quarterbacks that are playing in college.


Carolina_Girl
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re: Kelly Bryant having a better season Trevor Lawrence
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Happy for KB. Hopefully he can keep it going. I'm rooting for him.



So why aren't you rooting for Tavien Feaster as well?


ClemsonRules
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re: Kelly Bryant having a better season Trevor Lawrence
I’m rooting for Tavien Feaster...until he suits up against Clemson. That will be really weird.


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