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re: John Chavis by the numbers: Last 3 games
Posted on 9/6/17 at 6:45 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
Posted on 9/6/17 at 6:45 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
If we're being honest, "total wins" is not the metric to use to determine the best programs all-time. That number is skewed by "total # of games played". "Win percentage" is the best metric for this determination. Its akin to saying New York is the most murderous city in the Nation. No its not. New York has the most people(# of games played) therefor, it stands to reason it has the most "total murders"(total wins) but the real question is, "what are my greatest chances to get murdered"? In that case you look at "murders per capita"(murderers win percentage 
) aka "murder rate". In this case New York is not the most dangerous city by a long shot.
Here is all-time "Win Percentage"(this is skewed by level of competition, though. For many years Michigan, Ohio State only had each other as real competition, same for Texas/Oklahoma and USC played no one)
1. Michigan
2. Notre Dame
3. Ohio State
4. Alabama
5. Oklahoma
6. Texas
7. USC
8. Nebraska
9. Penn State
10. Tennessee
11. LSU
12. Georgia
13. Miami (FL)
14. Florida
15. Auburn
Most impressive are the SEC teams since there are 6 in the top 15 and they all had to play each other.
Interestingly there is strong correlation with the above list and stadium capacity. Except of course Faggies and UCLA, I guess thats why those fans are delusional.
1. Michigan
2. Penn State
3. Ohio State
4. TAMU
5. Tennessee
6. LSU
7. Alabama
8. Texas
9. USC
10. Georgia
11. UCLA (Rose Bowl crowd has to fit here)
12. Texas
13. Nebraska
14. Florida
15. Auburn
Take away? Tennessee, Penn State and LSU fans must be the most rabid and Notre Dame tickets must be hella expensive.
) aka "murder rate". In this case New York is not the most dangerous city by a long shot. Here is all-time "Win Percentage"(this is skewed by level of competition, though. For many years Michigan, Ohio State only had each other as real competition, same for Texas/Oklahoma and USC played no one)
1. Michigan
2. Notre Dame
3. Ohio State
4. Alabama
5. Oklahoma
6. Texas
7. USC
8. Nebraska
9. Penn State
10. Tennessee
11. LSU
12. Georgia
13. Miami (FL)
14. Florida
15. Auburn
Most impressive are the SEC teams since there are 6 in the top 15 and they all had to play each other.
Interestingly there is strong correlation with the above list and stadium capacity. Except of course Faggies and UCLA, I guess thats why those fans are delusional.
1. Michigan
2. Penn State
3. Ohio State
4. TAMU
5. Tennessee
6. LSU
7. Alabama
8. Texas
9. USC
10. Georgia
11. UCLA (Rose Bowl crowd has to fit here)
12. Texas
13. Nebraska
14. Florida
15. Auburn
Take away? Tennessee, Penn State and LSU fans must be the most rabid and Notre Dame tickets must be hella expensive.
This post was edited on 9/6/17 at 7:01 pm
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 7:16 pm to texag7
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This is sorta dumb.
LSU had basically the same history as A&M with fewer championships until around 2000 when Saban an co arrived.
There is no reason we cannot compete at an elite level.
80 years of data vs. illusions of grandeur that are yet to capitalize despite several windows of opportunity. I guess it’s all perspective what dumb means.
I’m not saying A&M is Arkansas State; nor that just like every other program would benefit from better coaching, nor that is would never field another really good team at some poing..just that it’s a myth it is this sleeping giant waiting to take over. I base this on 3 facts, sorry if long:
1. Texas talent is over rated. Yes good players come from there; but compare to say Florida the data is just not there to support it. We’ve seen several seasons where 2 of 3 or even all 3: FSU, Miami and Florida have been truly elite top 5 caliber teams the same season. This has NEVER happened with Texas and Texas A&M. Not a single game in the series with serious National implications. If the talent is so overwhelming you figure at least once it would have happened but no. How many times have both teams been even ranked at the same time? I’m sure a few but 18 vs 23 is not 1 vs 2…. We first way MSU and Ole Miss share top 5 rankings at the same time; just to put it in perspective.
2. There’s been windows: the 90’s UT, OU, LSU down at the same ; yes they were better but not elite. No NC or even seriously competed for one. The entry to the SEC, Texas down, strong debut season…. they were on their way… not quite as we now see. Right now with UT, Baylor and others down… just doesn’t happen. TCU and Baylor are better programs the last 15 years with A&M spending all the money.
3. Yes LSU was also an unproven commodity before Saban but there were signs that aren’t at A&M. Namely in the 90’s several top level LA football players: Manning, Marshall Faulk, Warrick Dunn, Travis Minor amongst many others where excelling elsewhere. Everyone said “if LSU can keep most of these cats home …:”… A&M is already having excellent in state classes and it’s not happening.
After 80 years it hasn’t happened despite several windows of opportunity… again keep believing in unicorns. Maybe they exist despite no one ever seeing one.
Having said all that… I still think A&M may be a pretty decent team this season if they don’t lose it mentally. They did look pretty solid for a while in that UCLA game. That did happen. They may still make some noise. Outside Bama no one looks that unbeatable in the SEC.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 7:18 pm to r2d2
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I still think A&M may be a pretty decent team this season if they don’t lose it mentally
This is a Kevin Sumlin-coached team.
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