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re: It cost Indiana $44,000 to lose to Tennessee in the Gator Bowl
Posted on 7/12/20 at 12:33 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
Posted on 7/12/20 at 12:33 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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Posted on 7/12/20 at 4:43 pm to BigOrangeLoyalist
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I didn't think Indiana would travel very well, but I was at the game and there was a LOT of red. I'd say about 35-40% of the attendance.
I wasn't too surprised they did travel well since that was their best season since the 1990s and they had the chance to prove their worth to an SEC team.
Posted on 7/12/20 at 4:46 pm to Solo Cam
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I question the ability to budget for these trips.
These are college kids. They don’t need lobster and steak every meal. Also maybe the walk-ons don’t need to go.
Maybe I’m being a cynical a-hole but I just don’t see how they spend this much money on a trip to Florida.
Then have fewer bowl games
It would be duplicitous to tell Players that the Bowl is a reward for a good season, then cut corners financially and have the Players staying in a Motel6 eating Beenie-Weenie to save pennies for the Athl Dept
There has to be a middle ground between too much spending and a "nice reward" for the Players
Posted on 7/12/20 at 4:53 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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It would be duplicitous to tell Players that the Bowl is a reward for a good season, then cut corners financially and have the Players staying in a Motel6 eating Beenie-Weenie to save pennies for the Athl Dept
Then don’t eat.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 2:54 am to TigerintheNO
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The SEC only distributes the money equally, after they pay the tier bowl bonus payouts
Interesting didn't know they had a tiered
system.
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plus a travel allowance determined by SEC.
Interesting that
The CFB playoffs also kicks in a $3,000 per athlete travel allowance and it's says here the travel expense amount is different than $2.1.Maybe the conference takes a cut
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Each conference gets an additional $2.43 million to cover travel expenses for each game.
This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 7:24 am
Posted on 7/13/20 at 7:16 am to TrueLefty
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Wow! The cost to go play in a bowl game cost Indiana 44,000 dollars for the whole thing from flying and part ground travel, food, and some other expenses.
Sounds like they needed a better planning committee. It does not cost over 2 million dollars to send a team to a bowl. Whoever was in charge of planning it all was too fricking excited about their first bowl in forever to properly budget.
That said, schools lose money sending teams to bowls all the time. Not sure why this is news unless you're a salty Hoosier fan.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 8:18 am to Prof
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That said, schools lose money sending teams to bowls all the time.
They don't in the SEC and if the BIG has the same policy I don't think any of their
schools do as well.
Any school in the SEC gets a subsidy to cover any bowl game those in the red.
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The New Year's Six bowl games are part of the playoff rotation that helps subsidize the bowl expenses of teams in lesser bowl games through revenue sharing with all 10 conferences and independents in major college football. For example, the combined bowl “profit” for all schools and conferences was $448 million in 2017-18 after subtracting combined bowl expenses, according to the most recently available expense forms.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 8:28 am to PeeJayScammedGT
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The other item from that article that indicates shady accounting is the $250K for Bowl Unis and Apparel, the existing shoe & Apparel deal should provide that stuff at much less than full retail price to the University
College Athl Depts are known to use shady accounting to do everything in their power to NOT show any profits on paper to stem the pressure of Revenue Athletes asking for a fair percentage of what they gross
It took you longer to find this thread than and discredit them losing money than i thought it would. Should the players have to help pay the tab? Were supposed to be splitting this whole profit/expenses thing up right?
Posted on 7/13/20 at 10:54 am to themicah85
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It took you longer to find this thread than and discredit them losing money than i thought it would. Should the players have to help pay the tab? Were supposed to be splitting this whole profit/expenses thing up right?
Think about this Math for a minute:
85 scholly players
+
25 walk ons
+
30 Coaches & Support Staff that get Bowl Gear but not Unis since they don't play
=
140 total on a typical Bowl Team Traveling Party that gets Unis + "Athletic gear"
If I round up to 150 just to give the benefit of the doubt to the Athl Depts shady accounting practices that would equal
$250,000 divided by
150 players & coaches
=
$1,667 per person in the FB Program's Traveling Party
No way does any College spend almost $1,700 per person on Unis + Apparel for a Bowl Game
Athl Depts practice some shady arse accounting, so they can always say "we barely break-even, or we're losing money"
Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:59 pm to TrueLefty
What did it cost Tennessee to win? Or did they make money on the deal? Some of these you can see how teams lose money. I'm surprised Gator Bowl is so far down the list.
Ranking 2019 Bowls by Payout
Playoff Revenue Pool
NY6 Bowls
Orange
Rose
Sugar
Cotton
Fiesta
Peach
1. Citrus Bowl - 8.5M
Big Ten vs. SEC
2. Alamo Bowl - 7.9M
Big 12 vs. PAC-12
3. Outback Bowl - 6.35M
SEC vs. Big Ten
4. Holiday Bowl - 6.32M
Big Ten vs. PAC-12
5. Texas Bowl - 6.3M
Big 12 vs. SEC
6. Camping World Bowl - 5.8M
ACC/Notre Dame vs. Big 12
7. Music City Bowl - 5.6M
ACC/Notre Dame or Big Ten vs. SEC
8. Belk Bowl - 4.5M
ACC/Notre Dame vs. SEC
9. Pinstripe Bowl - 4.3M
ACC/Notre Dame vs. Big Ten
10. Liberty Bowl - 4.2M
Big 12 vs. SEC
11. Redbox Bowl -3.6M
Big Ten vs. PAC-12
12. Sun Bowl- 3.4M
ACC/Notre Dame vs. PAC-12
13. Gator Bowl - 3.1M
ACC/Notre Dame or Big Ten vs. SEC
14. Las Vegas Bowl - 2.7M
MWC vs. PAC-12
15. Military Bowl - 2.06M
ACC/Notre Dame vs. American
16. First Responder Bowl - 1.8M
Big 12 vs. CUSA
17. Birmingham Bowl - 1.6M
SEC vs. American
18. Dollar General Mobile Bowl - 1.5M
MAC vs. Sun Belt
19. Independence Bowl - 1.2M
ACC/Notre Dame vs. SEC
20. Gasparilla Bowl - 1.1M
American vs. CUSA
21. New Mexico Bowl - 1.05M
MWC vs. CUSA
22. Cheez-It Bowl - 1.03M
PAC 12 vs. Big 12
23. Hawaii Bowl - 1M
BYU/MWC vs. American
24. Boca Raton Bowl - 1M
CUSA/MAC/American
25. Potato Bowl - 950K
MWC vs. MAC
26. New Orleans Bowl - 925K
American vs. CUSA
27. Armed Forces Bowl - 900K
MWC vs. Big Ten
28. Cure Bowl - 751K
American vs. Sun Belt
29. Frisco Bowl - 750K
American vs. CUSA/MAC/MWC
30. Quick Lane Bowl - 750K
Big Ten vs. ACC/Notre Dame
31. Arizona Bowl - 412K
MWC vs. Sun Belt
32. Camellia Bowl - 250K
Sun Belt vs. MAC
33. Bahamas Bowl - 225K
CUSA vs. MAC
Link
LINK /
Ranking 2019 Bowls by Payout
Playoff Revenue Pool
NY6 Bowls
Orange
Rose
Sugar
Cotton
Fiesta
Peach
1. Citrus Bowl - 8.5M
Big Ten vs. SEC
2. Alamo Bowl - 7.9M
Big 12 vs. PAC-12
3. Outback Bowl - 6.35M
SEC vs. Big Ten
4. Holiday Bowl - 6.32M
Big Ten vs. PAC-12
5. Texas Bowl - 6.3M
Big 12 vs. SEC
6. Camping World Bowl - 5.8M
ACC/Notre Dame vs. Big 12
7. Music City Bowl - 5.6M
ACC/Notre Dame or Big Ten vs. SEC
8. Belk Bowl - 4.5M
ACC/Notre Dame vs. SEC
9. Pinstripe Bowl - 4.3M
ACC/Notre Dame vs. Big Ten
10. Liberty Bowl - 4.2M
Big 12 vs. SEC
11. Redbox Bowl -3.6M
Big Ten vs. PAC-12
12. Sun Bowl- 3.4M
ACC/Notre Dame vs. PAC-12
13. Gator Bowl - 3.1M
ACC/Notre Dame or Big Ten vs. SEC
14. Las Vegas Bowl - 2.7M
MWC vs. PAC-12
15. Military Bowl - 2.06M
ACC/Notre Dame vs. American
16. First Responder Bowl - 1.8M
Big 12 vs. CUSA
17. Birmingham Bowl - 1.6M
SEC vs. American
18. Dollar General Mobile Bowl - 1.5M
MAC vs. Sun Belt
19. Independence Bowl - 1.2M
ACC/Notre Dame vs. SEC
20. Gasparilla Bowl - 1.1M
American vs. CUSA
21. New Mexico Bowl - 1.05M
MWC vs. CUSA
22. Cheez-It Bowl - 1.03M
PAC 12 vs. Big 12
23. Hawaii Bowl - 1M
BYU/MWC vs. American
24. Boca Raton Bowl - 1M
CUSA/MAC/American
25. Potato Bowl - 950K
MWC vs. MAC
26. New Orleans Bowl - 925K
American vs. CUSA
27. Armed Forces Bowl - 900K
MWC vs. Big Ten
28. Cure Bowl - 751K
American vs. Sun Belt
29. Frisco Bowl - 750K
American vs. CUSA/MAC/MWC
30. Quick Lane Bowl - 750K
Big Ten vs. ACC/Notre Dame
31. Arizona Bowl - 412K
MWC vs. Sun Belt
32. Camellia Bowl - 250K
Sun Belt vs. MAC
33. Bahamas Bowl - 225K
CUSA vs. MAC
Link
LINK /
This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 7/13/20 at 1:36 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
How long were they in Jacksonville for the game? Did they take the players to other venues ie. touristy things?
Did they get new uniforms with Gator Bowl patches? Clemson pays about $2600 per player, pads , helmet etc per player.
Uniform Costs for clemson
Did they get new uniforms with Gator Bowl patches? Clemson pays about $2600 per player, pads , helmet etc per player.
Uniform Costs for clemson
Posted on 7/13/20 at 3:14 pm to solus
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Meals were the next biggest expense at $337,236
I mean did they have table service every damn meal?
Roughly 160 players assuming all made the trip. Say what 30-40 coaches/staff/etc?
Around 1600 a person. If you were there an entire week and had 3 full meals each day that’s 75 dollars a meal.
That’s insane.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 3:59 pm to TrueLefty
The headline cornfused me. It made it seem like having a loss cost them $44K. Win or lose I suspect their check from the bowl would have been the same.
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