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Is ‘the defensive mindset’ a thing of the past in college football?
Posted on 9/8/19 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 9/8/19 at 8:45 pm
It seems that the top teams are coming to grips with the fact that sometimes you need to out score an opponent.
Top teams will have constant access to capable QBs thanks to the transfer portal. This may be the most enabling development in the evolution of bigtime college offenses. Just look at how many top teams are playing a transfer.
Not that defense will be unimportant, but the days of Mt. Cody plugging up 2 gaps while the LBs crash down on the run are gone.
Defensive recruiting is going to change. I’m betting that average DT weights will soon be down to the 255 Lb range, while DEs and LBs will be almost universally interchangeable in the 220 Lb range.
DTs & DEs need to consistently get QB pressure, while LBs will need to be solid in coverage and prepared to chase down a lot of misdirection.
I truly loved 9-6 (except for all of the missed FGs), but I don’t think we’re going to see that style from championship teams again for quite a while.
Old school coaches may be tempted to try, but a ball control offense just won’t consistently win championships against offenses that can put up 40+ points in nearly every game.
Top teams will have constant access to capable QBs thanks to the transfer portal. This may be the most enabling development in the evolution of bigtime college offenses. Just look at how many top teams are playing a transfer.
Not that defense will be unimportant, but the days of Mt. Cody plugging up 2 gaps while the LBs crash down on the run are gone.
Defensive recruiting is going to change. I’m betting that average DT weights will soon be down to the 255 Lb range, while DEs and LBs will be almost universally interchangeable in the 220 Lb range.
DTs & DEs need to consistently get QB pressure, while LBs will need to be solid in coverage and prepared to chase down a lot of misdirection.
I truly loved 9-6 (except for all of the missed FGs), but I don’t think we’re going to see that style from championship teams again for quite a while.
Old school coaches may be tempted to try, but a ball control offense just won’t consistently win championships against offenses that can put up 40+ points in nearly every game.
This post was edited on 9/8/19 at 8:56 pm
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Posted on 9/8/19 at 8:48 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Nope. Clemson seemed to do ok as a top team. LSU’s defense just isn’t that good.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 8:50 pm to Eli Goldfinger
No team is winning the championship that doesn't have a top defense. The last team to win that had a mediocre one was Auburn with Cam.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 8:51 pm to koreandawg
If OU would have had an average defense, they could have won a nc.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 8:52 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Without a top defense, you are not stopping a high powered offense
Think back to the early days of Oregon. Facing a defense worth a damn... the cried
Think back to the early days of Oregon. Facing a defense worth a damn... the cried
Posted on 9/8/19 at 8:56 pm to Jyrdis
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Nope. Clemson seemed to do ok as a top team. LSU’s defense just isn’t that good.
Our Defense was concerning, but it is difficult to defend against offenses like Texas. Georgia and Alabama have given up a lot of points to Oklahoma and Texas in their respective games. It's premature to think LSU will not have a great defense.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 8:58 pm to rpr4695
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It's premature to think LSU will not have a great defense.
Exactly!
LSU clearly has great defensive personnel.
Maybe we should change how “great defense” is defined.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 9:01 pm to Eli Goldfinger
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I’m betting that average DT weights will soon be down to the 255 Lb range, while DEs and LBs will be almost universally interchangeable in the 220 Lb range.
Negative on this. Top OLs would absolutely overwhelm this style of team in the running game.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 9:02 pm to rpr4695
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Our Defense was concerning, but it is difficult to defend against offenses like Texas.
Texas is a middling, non-creative, plodding, mid-tier offense in this league. That is not a powerful offense. They are the only offense in FBS that didn't have a scoring play over 50 yards last season. The only one. Dead last.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 9:03 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Our first half defensive effort allowed us to coast in the second half. Defense couldn't catch a break and had a 19 play drive that absolutely killed our stamina. Our defense isn't as good as I thought they were, but I don't see them giving up more than 30 every other game also.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 9:03 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Clock rules, blocking rules (cut blocking is still somehow legal in CFB), pass interference rules, and removal of contact from the game all favor the offense.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 9:05 pm to UnAnon
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Our first half defensive effort allowed us to coast in the second half.
They "coasted" in the 2nd half. Is this the new "didn't wanna be there"?
Posted on 9/8/19 at 9:06 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Negative on this. Top OLs would absolutely overwhelm this style of team in the running game.
Not necessarily.
If this were always true, Bama would have crushed Utah in 2008 and you would never see teams like GA State/BYU beating teams like UT.
If you sceme correctly, agile DLs can give big OLs lots of trouble.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 9:07 pm to Eli Goldfinger
One way to stop the other team from putting up 40 is to keep the ball out of their hands.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 9:12 pm to rpr4695
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It's premature to think LSU will not have a great defense.
LSU needs to get to good before they get great. Playing a bottom tier D1 and a Big 12 opponent has shown us nothing of your defense except that the bottom teams can’t score on LSU and the Big 12 teams can.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 9:13 pm to CharlotteSooner
allowed our offense to coast in the second half. Nobody is saying the defense played great, but there's a lot of factors in to why they didn't more than "they were bad"
Posted on 9/8/19 at 9:15 pm to CharlotteSooner
I took the OP's point to be that no huddle, spread offenses are replacing the old offensive scheme, not so much a commentary on defenses. But in that context, LSU
ran 65 plays to UT's 85; as well, LSU had several 6 - 7 play drives. That disparity does put pressure on any defense, especially in heat like yesterday. I've heard several football talking heads reference the growth of 7 on 7 leagues across the country but especially in Texas as a leader in developing QB's in h.schools in this type of offense.
ran 65 plays to UT's 85; as well, LSU had several 6 - 7 play drives. That disparity does put pressure on any defense, especially in heat like yesterday. I've heard several football talking heads reference the growth of 7 on 7 leagues across the country but especially in Texas as a leader in developing QB's in h.schools in this type of offense.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 9:20 pm to Keltic Tiger
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I took the OP's point to be that no huddle, spread offenses are replacing the old offensive scheme,
That happened 20 years ago.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 9:27 pm to Jyrdis
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LSU needs to get to good before they get great. Playing a bottom tier D1 and a Big 12 opponent has shown us nothing of your defense except that the bottom teams can’t score on LSU and the Big 12 teams can.
Well luckily it wont take a great defense to stop Auburns offense so that wont be a concern in that game.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 9:38 pm to JesusQuintana
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One way to stop the other team from putting up 40 is to keep the ball out of their hands.
Yep. See the Army Black Knights for proof.
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