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re: Is Lincoln Riley really worth $12-13 million/year?

Posted on 11/26/21 at 3:05 pm to
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22358 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 3:05 pm to
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We called this last week. No matter who LSU hires, he's not gonna be a good coach according to a lot of people here.




There are good hires out there.

Lincoln Riley isn't one of them. But hell, you won a HC with Coach O, so...

Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24262 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 3:13 pm to
No coach is worth that But to be honest Bama and Saban started this trend when Saban was hired.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52177 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 3:15 pm to
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There are good hires out there.

Lincoln Riley isn't one of them. 


Lol wut?
Posted by FishFearMe
United States
Member since Jul 2015
7196 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 3:20 pm to
Lincoln Riley doesn't scare anybody in the SEC.

Took over the strongest program in a charmin soft conference. Didn't run it in a ditch.

Bring it on. Napier would have been a better hire.
Posted by Flyin'Cajun
Wiregrass, AL
Member since Dec 2011
958 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 3:20 pm to
Honestly. I don’t think any coach is worth that much. It’s ridiculous. Hell, I think NFL players are paid too much too. So, there’s that.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52177 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 3:23 pm to
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Lincoln Riley doesn't scare anybody in the SEC.

Took over the strongest program in a charmin soft conference. Didn't run it in a ditch.


So Jimbo?

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Didn't run it into a ditch.


Oh wait.
Posted by FishFearMe
United States
Member since Jul 2015
7196 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 3:27 pm to
Jimbo has Aggies imp r owing from when he took over. Took Dabo 8 years before he played for a natty (and lost)
Posted by TigerInGrayton
Member since Nov 2021
861 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 3:38 pm to
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That aside, willing to pay a coach to come to LSU more than even Nick Saban makes reeks of desperation. Nick Saban has proved he's worth the money, with 7 national titles, and one every other year on average the last 12 years. Riley, just for an example, has never won a national title, so he'd certainly not be worth 2 to 5 million more than Saban, even if he were to come, which he isn't.

LSU made Saban the highest paid coach in the county when he left Michigan State and he really hadn’t proven much up to that point. Your logic is really stupid. This is LSU. After Saban we took a coach that was mediocre at Oklahoma State and won another title and after him we took the worst coach in Ole Miss history and won another title. If those 2 asshats could win a title then just imagine what an actual good X’s and O’s coach like Riley will do. I understand the fear but let’s try to stick to reality.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21855 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 3:42 pm to

Sure in 2021 inflated dollars.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52177 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 3:44 pm to
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Jimbo has Aggies imp r owing from when he took over. Took Dabo 8 years before he played for a natty (and lost)


He went 9-4 his first season, could do the same this year.

Comparing him to Clemson is apples to oranges. They didn't have the resources you have and weren't recruiting at your level.
Posted by countrytiger60
Larose
Member since Sep 2018
3609 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 3:46 pm to
LSU won National Championships with Les Miles and coach O. let that sink in. Riley should win easily at LSU.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22358 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 3:49 pm to
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Lol wut?



Why do you think he is a great head coach? I mean he's not terrible, at least you aren't pulling an Auburn and spending millions of dollars just to hire a worse coach. I think he's an upgrade over O.

But what has he done that makes you think great hire? He took over a top program and hasn't improved it. Despite his reputation, his only success is with transfer QBs, his own recruits are not good.

And on the defensive side of things, while Oklahoma fans have claimed for years that he was making them better and recruiting better, they are not better.

Spencer Rattler was Oklahoma's 8th highest recruit ever, couldn't get developed at Oklahoma. Caleb Williams is there #3 best recruit ever. He's a true freshman, so can't put it all on him, however it is a sign of how bad Rattler has developed. All their Heisman QB's are transfers.

Meanwhile you could have hired a guy like Mark Stoops. Who has taken a bottom tier program and had success with them, and has maintained that level year after year. Probably for much less.

Judging coaches is a lot like judging college teams. You have to look at their SoS and what they did. Riley has done about average on an easy schedule, where as others have done above average on a tougher schedule.
This post was edited on 11/26/21 at 3:52 pm
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41811 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 4:07 pm to
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know everyone wants a ready made champ coach, but shouldn’t they get one who can build a foundation for future success?

The recruits are there but is the culture?


Thanks for the concern.

If LR comes to BR, it'll be huge for this program. Does anyone truly believe he won't be better than Miles & O?

Gonna be a fun ride
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52177 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 4:08 pm to
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Why do you think he is a great head coach?


I don't but you said it wasn't a good hire which is a retard tier statement.

quote:

Despite his reputation, his only success is with transfer QBs


Why do folks always pretend this is some kind of negative? Effectively using the transfer portal is only going to become a bigger part of the job.

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his own recruits are not good.


Caleb Williams has completed 65% of his passes for 1,418 yards, 15 touchdowns, and 4 interceptions as a true freshman.

He's also ran for 372 yards and another 6 touchdowns.

To say that isn't good is another retard tier statement.

Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
11331 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 4:15 pm to
Amazing how much money these glorified pe teachers are getting
Posted by LSUBALLER
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
15971 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 4:16 pm to
Why do you make so many post about this. Why you so worried?
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31872 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 4:19 pm to
Because he’s had a stable of SEC elite recruits to work with.

If you all aren’t a tad concerned LSU goes from a potato who won a NC to Lincoln, you are disingenuous or stupid.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259416 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 4:34 pm to
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Lincoln Riley doesn't scare anybody in the SEC.


This thread says otherwise.


Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22358 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 5:25 pm to
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I don't but you said it wasn't a good hire which is a retard tier statement.



He's over-rated and is living on the program Bob Stoops built. His bright side is he hasn't fricked it up.

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Why do folks always pretend this is some kind of negative? Effectively using the transfer portal is only going to become a bigger part of the job.



Because his reputation is that he is a QB guru. Thus why the sentence started with "Despite his reputation". The heavy use of the transfer portal just highlights his inability to develop talent.

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Caleb Williams has completed 65% of his passes for 1,418 yards, 15 touchdowns, and 4 interceptions as a true freshman.

He's also ran for 372 yards and another 6 touchdowns.

To say that isn't good is another retard tier statement.


And here is where we get the easy schedule generating big stats arguments. You are ignoring that when they played a decent defense for once, he went 50% completion(9-18) 0 TDs, 2 INTs. As I said above, the competition and circumstances are important. And since he is a true freshman, I do not think it's on Williams really, but it does show had little Rattler has developed to be behind him.

Aranda would have been a better hire as well. I get that his HC career is short, but Riley's isn't much longer. And he just beat Oklahoma in his 2nd year, and Baylor is rated higher than Oklahoma in the FEI rankings.




Posted by Jster15
Member since Aug 2019
2173 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 5:50 pm to
Unbelievable amount for for someone who has necer built a program.
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