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Is Les Miles as good of a football coach as Nick Saban?

Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:23 pm
Posted by MSHawg1
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:23 pm
I know this will sound insane, but hear me out. As I conducted an in-depth look into their respective head-coaching records, I was stunned to find the similarities their winning percentage.

At LSU, Nick Saban finished with a record of 48-16 with a winning percentage of 0.75 (Outstanding by anyone's standard's)



Lester, on the other hand, finished with a record of 114-34 during his time at LSU. His winning percentage at the school was actually higher than Saban's. He finished with a winning percentage of 0.77 (elite)



Their record at other schools is also shockingly close. Saban's record at Michigan State was 34-24-1, a winning percentage of 0.578. Miles' record at Oklahoma State was 28-21, a winning percentage 0.571. I consider OSU and MSU to be similar jobs, and their records at each school are almost identical.

What I'm saying is...we will never know what Leslie Edwin Miles could have done at a school with as many built-in advantages (media bias, Birmingham bias, open cheating against Auburn, etc.) as Alabama. Saban has benefited from coaching at Alabama as much as Alabama has benefited from him.
Posted by LSUdude247
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:26 pm to
He was a great coach but the game was catching up to his old offense. If he would've adapted he would still be our head coach now but he didn't.
Posted by Frac the world
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:28 pm to
1/10, really lazy attempt
Posted by ItchyandScratchy
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:29 pm to
Not even in the same stratosphere.
Posted by MSHawg1
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:31 pm to
Posted by bamaboy87
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:31 pm to
Les miles took over a completely different LSU program than Nick Saban
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:33 pm to
People forget that had Miles won in 2011, Miles and Saban would have had the same amount of titles. Instead, Les was Les and you know the rest of the story.
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:34 pm to
This is probably a troll... but

Saban is the GOAT.... better than anyone, but Miles does somethings very very well and is seemingly a pretty good guy. He also coached at LSU a true powerhouse, not at Arkansas. That helps most decent coaches improve their winning %.
This post was edited on 1/17/19 at 9:37 pm
Posted by craigbiggio
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:35 pm to
Les never lost by 4TDs to frickin Dabo
Posted by arcalades
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:35 pm to
If not for Saban, Les would have been the most successful coach of this generation but no where near the best coach.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:36 pm to
Les is criminally underrated.

That said, he was trending downward just as Saban was hitting his stride.

Les was very good. Saban is the best there's been yet.
Posted by MSHawg1
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:37 pm to
quote:

He also coached at LSU a true powerhouse, not at Arkansas. That helps most decent coaches improve their winning %

Thread about Nick Saban vs. Les Miles, and an LSU fan takes a time out to talk about Arkansas.


tObsession is real
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36499 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:37 pm to
quote:

Les miles took over a completely different LSU program than Nick Saban




Say what you want, but Saban walked into a loaded roster.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:39 pm to
LSU money went down

Alabama players got chargers
Posted by MSHawg1
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:40 pm to
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Say what you want, but Saban walked into a loaded roster.

This. On any given year, LSU has enough talent to win 7-8 games. The state of Louisiana's high school football makes it so. The problem is always coaching.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36499 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:41 pm to
Meh, not every coach at LSU is great at recruiting.

Gerry was, though.
Posted by ItchyandScratchy
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:45 pm to
Saban has 6 National Titles. Les has 1 (with 2 losses). This isn't a discussion.
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:46 pm to
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If not for Saban, Les would have been the most successful coach of this generation


Interesting point but not sure if I fully agree. Talent wise he fielded elite teams in 05, 06, 07 and 11. Not far off in 10 and 16. Later years he dealt with Saban but had
Les won one more before Saban got things rolling he may have create enough distance to never be caught.

No knock on The Hat, a true College Football legend. He did more in 11 years at LSU than all mediocre programs have in 80 years.
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
6842 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:51 pm to
quote:

Thread about Nick Saban vs. Les Miles, and an LSU fan takes a time out to talk about Arkansas


Who started the thread? I responded reasonably but took a little swipe... it’s the Rant after all. Don’t become over sensitive like A&M fans.
Posted by Texas Weazel
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Member since Oct 2016
8525 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:52 pm to
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A&M fans.

There it is.

This is now officially an Aggy thread.
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