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Is Georgia cheating? Yes, but here's why they won't get caught
Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:26 am
Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:26 am
The difference between Ole Miss and Georgia is simple, location. Who in their right mind would come from Illinois to go to damn Oxford, Ms? Georgia is only getting the instate kids to stay while continuing to pluck NC, SC, TN, FL and AL as they always have. They also have been known to reach to Texas and Louisiana in a few instances. Going to Ohio to get a 5* when you are hot isn't that big of a deal. Are they paying them? frick yeah, but so is everyone else. With Kirby's arrival it just allowed the boosters to be more aggressive toward recruiting and the police. I bet we see the number of Georgia players being arrested drop significantly over the next 5 years. Why? Because the boosters are going to ride the local politicians and stay on their asses. What we see Georgia doing is what we all thought would be done if they got the right guy and they certainly have gotten their guy.
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 11:27 am
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:26 am to MontyFranklyn
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Is Georgia cheating? Yes, but here's why they won't get caught
Alabama accusing others of cheating.
The fear is real.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:35 am to MontyFranklyn
He's got about 5 or 6 years of rampant cheating where everyone is onboard. If he doesn't get caught in that window of oppotunity, then he'll have a steady NFL pipeline of Day 1 picks and the program will sell itself, and the booster can cut down the number of times they pay off loans for uncle Joe, spiff handlers, have lucrative hoise-sitting gigs for players families, car deals through a "work bonus for mom", job opportunities for dad, etc. Kirby has to keep a tight reign on the boosters while they're all rowing in the same direction. If he doesnt win and win big, some of them will turn on him and some shite will begin to leak out. If the FBI comes sniffing around, all bets are off.
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 11:37 am
Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:45 am to TailbackU
All major college football and basketball programs are dirty, to some level. Kirby and UGA are no exception. The problem for them could potentially be what brought Freeze and OM down. And that's a a rise that is impossibly quick. OM went from a nobody program to recruiting top 5 classes, signing out of state 5-stars, beating Alabama in back to back seasons, etc. It just came out of nowhere, way too fast. It was easy for the NCAA to spot the cheating from a mile away.
Kirby is on a similar path. Top 3 class, #1 class, in the natty his second year at a program that hasn't been there in 40 years. NCAA is probably keeping a close eye on Athens right now. Kirby would be wise to cool things for a bit and build slowly to avoid suspicion.
Kirby is on a similar path. Top 3 class, #1 class, in the natty his second year at a program that hasn't been there in 40 years. NCAA is probably keeping a close eye on Athens right now. Kirby would be wise to cool things for a bit and build slowly to avoid suspicion.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:46 am to TailbackU
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If the FBI comes sniffing around, all bets are off.
Hopefully there aren't any New York money managers laundering money that can be linked to UGA boosters paying cash to recruits.
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 11:47 am
Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:48 am to tider04
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Kirby is on a similar path. Top 3 class, #1 class, in the natty his second year at a program that hasn't been there in 40 years. NCAA is probably keeping a close eye on Athens right now. Kirby would be wise to cool things for a bit and build slowly to avoid suspicion.
There is no happy medium between what Richt was doing and what Kirby has done the past two classes. There is no intermediate "slow building" step.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:50 am to tider04
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Kirby is on a similar path.
You presented evidence to the contrary. Uga went from 6 to 3 to 1. That's not close to an impossibly quick rise. You must be confused with bama's rise
Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:51 am to Crowknowsbest
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There is no happy medium between what Richt was doing and what Kirby has done the past two classes. There is no intermediate "slow building" step.
Sure there is. Richt usually signed classes in the 8-12 range. If Kirby came in and started signing top 5 classes for a few years and slowly built up to top 1-2 classes that would be more believable than going 7-5 one year then boom top 3 class, #1 class, in the natty. Too fast. Too obvious.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:54 am to tider04
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The problem for them could potentially be what brought Freeze and OM down. And that's a a rise that is impossibly quick. OM went from a nobody program to recruiting top 5 classes
I need some consistency. What should I feel bad about as a Georgia fan - the fact that Richt always recruited this well so nothing has changed in our program, or the fact that this type of recruiting came out of nowhere and cheating is the reason?
I'm sure they're both accurate somehow, I just need an official ruling.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:55 am to tider04
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Richt usually signed classes in the 8-12 range. If Kirby came in and started signing top 5 classes for a few years and slowly built up to top 1-2 classes that would be more believable than going 7-5 one year then boom top 3 class, #1 class, in the natty. Too fast. Too obvious.
Richt's final full class was #6. His last class was in the top 5 before he got fired. Kirby was #3 last year, #1 this year.
He did exactly what you're saying actually. Nailed it.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:56 am to ATLdawg25
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I need some consistency. What should I feel bad about as a Georgia fan - the fact that Richt always recruited this well so nothing has changed in our program, or the fact that this type of recruiting came out of nowhere and cheating is the reason?
LOL, Richt never even sniffed this level of recruiting. His classes usually were somewhere in the 8-12 range. Never sniffed a top 3 class, much less #1. And he isn't a bad recruiter by any stretch. See his time in Miami. Some really nervous dawgs in here today.
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 11:58 am
Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:58 am to tider04
Alabama had a #3 class in '08 and never left the top 5 after that. Success brings in recruits. It's also not Kirby's fault that Tennessee is an absolute dumpster fire, Florida sucks, Texas sucks, USC sucks. Saban probably would have had higher classes but the competition was little better back then. Florida actually tried back then.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:58 am to MontyFranklyn
You sound like such a little Gump bitch
Kirby just followed Saban's tactics of cheating. He learned everything from the master
Kirby just followed Saban's tactics of cheating. He learned everything from the master
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:58 am to Crowknowsbest
quote:But it isn't that far out of realm because all he did was keep all the Georgia 5*s in state and snatched snatched a couple out of state. Everyone has been saying Georgia is a sleeping monster and will rise again if you can get a recruiter to do just that.
There is no happy medium between what Richt was doing and what Kirby has done the past two classes. There is no intermediate "slow building" step.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 11:59 am to tider04
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Never sniffed a top 3 class
not true actually
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he isn't a bad recruiter by any stretch. See his time in Miami.
His Miami class is like looking at his UGA classes. Good skill, dogshit on the lines of scrimmage. It's exactly the same. He's a vastly overrated recruiter, which I didn't think I would ever say. The guy can't close down the stretch.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 12:00 pm to tider04
Our classes went from 12 to 8 to 6 to 6 to 3 to 1. Slow and steady build to the top. Smart is just better than richt on every level.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 12:01 pm to MontyFranklyn
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Everyone has been saying Georgia is a sleeping monster and will rise again if you can get a recruiter to do just that.
Exactly. Now everyone screams we're cheating.
For the record, UGA is cheating, but so is everyone else. You're all just pissy because UGA counters offers now.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 12:02 pm to MontyFranklyn
good for them
Posted on 2/27/18 at 12:02 pm to djsdawg
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Our classes went from 12 to 8 to 6 to 6 to 3 to 1. Slow and steady build to the top. Smart is just better than richt on every level.
Don't give Bama fans facts. Let them wallow in their own misery while you blow them out of the water with far superior talent
Kirby>>Saban in terms of recruiting
Posted on 2/27/18 at 12:03 pm to Crowknowsbest
"UGA needs to get rid of Richt, he will never get a title"
"Oh shite, they got rid of Richt and now have one of the best recruiting classes of all time...THEY'RE CHEATING!!"
"Oh shite, they got rid of Richt and now have one of the best recruiting classes of all time...THEY'RE CHEATING!!"
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