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re: Is Arkansas cursed?
Posted on 8/4/22 at 10:22 pm to FireDanMullen
Posted on 8/4/22 at 10:22 pm to FireDanMullen
They had chances but some years had the talent to win the SEC but poor coaching caused it to be wasted.
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Posted on 8/4/22 at 11:07 pm to dchog
Arkansas does nothing expect win and compete in every sport, every year.
Granted...from 2012-2020 the Petrino fallout cost the football program greatly. It appears that is being put back together and the justified fear is evident. Hogs can't be a football dynasty, but they will compete every 3-4 years if they stay on this track.
Granted...from 2012-2020 the Petrino fallout cost the football program greatly. It appears that is being put back together and the justified fear is evident. Hogs can't be a football dynasty, but they will compete every 3-4 years if they stay on this track.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 11:19 pm to colbycovington
Stoernover, change in NC voting, shot clock, hand checks, horse collar tackles.. just a few more bad luck things associated with the Hogs.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 7:40 am to Rzrbackguy
Petrino was going to sink the program even if he didn't fall off the bike. His negativity was too much of a burden to carry around.
If Sam can average eight wins a year then you will hear no complaints from hog fans.
If Sam can average eight wins a year then you will hear no complaints from hog fans.
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 7:41 am
Posted on 8/5/22 at 7:45 am to colbycovington
We all think you are overachievers. To even get close is pretty huge for a state that doesn’t produce a ton of elite talent.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 7:57 am to AtlantaLSUfan
Arkansas traditionally relied on out of state talent to fill in the gaps. So it isn't something Arkansas isn't familiar with at all. Arkansas used to recruit Texas hard back in the SWC days but that pool dried up a lot when Arkansas stopped playing Texas and the aggies after they joined the SEC. So over the decades Arkansas had to adapt to new recruiting territories.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 8:03 am to colbycovington
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Fires Nolan Richardson
why ?
Posted on 8/5/22 at 8:32 am to dchog
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They had chances but some years had the talent to win the SEC but poor coaching caused it to be wasted.
Literally every team outside of Vanderbilt could make this broad statement.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 8:34 am to dchog
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f Sam can average eight wins a year then you will hear no complaints from hog fans.
He will. He is a solid coach and Arkansas is a decent program with strong tradition and a good fanbase. I think Pittman is there for the next 15 years going 8-4 very regularly
Posted on 8/5/22 at 8:36 am to FireDanMullen
Yes but it was said that Arkansas isn't capable of winning an SEC title and that is false.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 8:39 am to colbycovington
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get blown out in the championship game by UCLA.
UCLA cheats
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he fell off of a motorcycle
More like driven off the road by a jealous lover
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Dropped a pop fly in 2018 to finish 2nd.
That is more like WAOM than cursed
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Arkansas has arguably the best athletic program in the SEC
Are there bad men's programs the SEC? This is clearly a "steel sharpens steel" conference and not a most conference members suck conference. tLandmass now has 2 CWS in 2 years so buck up little champion and keep on trying with less whining.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 8:41 am to dchog
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Yes but it was said that Arkansas isn't capable of winning an SEC title and that is false.
I don’t think that is false.
Arkansas is 0 for 30 in SEC titles since joining the conference, they haven’t been competitive in the divisional race alone in 15 years, and the recruiting ranking numbers of the past SEC champions indicate that you need to be consistently averaging top 8 classes in a 4 year cycle. I don’t believe Arkansas has ever recruited in a top 15 average class in a 4 year span.
Not trying to be a prick but it just is what it is
Posted on 8/5/22 at 8:43 am to CFB_Fanatic
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11 win regular season is pretty much the ceiling for 95% of college football.
More like 8-4, just ask TAMU
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:03 am to colbycovington
No, but when their fans understand what it's like to be Humble, a championship might follow..
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:09 am to FireDanMullen
The biggest sport is football and Arkansas has never won an SEC title in the 30 years they’ve been in this conference.>>>>>
Aggy says, Hold my beer.
poor aggies
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:16 am to FireDanMullen
It is false because Arkansas had some teams that were good enough to win an SEC title. Arkansas has suffered from poor coaching since joining the SEC. Sam Pittman is the best head coach Arkansas has ever had since Ken Hatfield. Why is that? Because he doesn't have any flawed personality traits that would keep him from coaching at his full potential. But this also just shows you how terrible the coaching hires has been with an 80 year old AD and another AD that was fired at both Arkansas and Kansas.
Arkansas has never had since joining the SEC consistently good coaching that would truly determine what they are and what they can be.
Arkansas has never had since joining the SEC consistently good coaching that would truly determine what they are and what they can be.
Posted on 8/6/22 at 10:04 am to dchog
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Arkansas has never had since joining the SEC consistently good coaching that would truly determine what they are and what they can be.
Thats such a speculative opinion and you can literally say this about every team in this conference who hasn’t won a conference title outside of Vanderbilt and Kentucky maybe.
Circumstances and completely subjective opinion on your part doesn’t determine if Arkansas is capable of winning an SEC championship. The facts say otherwise. The hogs are 0/30 tries. And no team has won this conference with the recruiting level Arkansas is at so objectively speaking Arkansas isn’t capable of winning a conference title by definition. Winning the West a couple times when it was complete dog shite and then subsequently losing in Atlanta doesn’t mean you are capable of winning this conference. Whether you had 10/10 coaching or not.
Posted on 8/6/22 at 10:10 am to dchog
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is false because Arkansas had some teams that were good enough to win an SEC title
This is completely speculative. You don’t really have any evidence to say Arkansas had a good enough team to win the SEC. Bc they didn’t. And there’s no Evidence to prove otherwise. Your 2 best teams in the last 30 years didn’t even win their division and the 2006 team that played Florida close in Atlanta (which btw a lot of teams did. We beat Vandy by 6 pts, UGA by 7, Tenn and SC by 1 point in 06) lost 4 games. So I really don’t think my assessment is false.
Posted on 8/6/22 at 10:52 am to FireDanMullen
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and the recruiting ranking numbers of the past SEC champions indicate that you need to be consistently averaging top 8 classes in a 4 year cycle
Not saying this won't still be a factor but I think it will show to be less significant, in the coming years, with the portal the way it is.
Posted on 8/6/22 at 11:42 am to FireDanMullen
Opinion or not I have the advantage of watching these teams for decades and I have seen teams that were good enough to win an SEC title. You don't understand the circumstances that involve the football program. The administrative level has been a complete mess under an aging Frank Broyles and under Jeff Long who made shite hires in both football and basketball. The last hire that Frank hired before he started losing is grip was Dave Van Horn. After that it was like watching a really bad reality TV series.
Enter Hunter Yuracheck and he fired mediocre Mike Anderson. He hired Eric Mussleman. He took Arkansas to back to back Elite eights for the first time in 25 years. I don't know about you but that kinda sounds like the football program where the critics said that the basketball program would never be good again and that the Nolan years was just a flash in a pan. Well I guess those critics are silent now.
Then he hired Sam Pittman and everyone laughed. Well he won three SEC games in his first year when Arkansas fans and the nation thought Arkansas would go 0-10. Then it was said the year after that Arkansas just snuck up on the SEC and they wouldn't win three SEC games. It was a done deal as Vegas is never wrong and had Arkansas at 5.5 wins. Arkansas goes 9-4 and exceeds expectations. Sam Pittman is the best Arkansas coach since Ken Hatfield again I say. Coaching matters more than anything and Arkansas never had it consistently for many decades. It was coaching that willed Arkansas to nine wins with the same level of talent that went back to back 2-10 seasons.
Enter Hunter Yuracheck and he fired mediocre Mike Anderson. He hired Eric Mussleman. He took Arkansas to back to back Elite eights for the first time in 25 years. I don't know about you but that kinda sounds like the football program where the critics said that the basketball program would never be good again and that the Nolan years was just a flash in a pan. Well I guess those critics are silent now.
Then he hired Sam Pittman and everyone laughed. Well he won three SEC games in his first year when Arkansas fans and the nation thought Arkansas would go 0-10. Then it was said the year after that Arkansas just snuck up on the SEC and they wouldn't win three SEC games. It was a done deal as Vegas is never wrong and had Arkansas at 5.5 wins. Arkansas goes 9-4 and exceeds expectations. Sam Pittman is the best Arkansas coach since Ken Hatfield again I say. Coaching matters more than anything and Arkansas never had it consistently for many decades. It was coaching that willed Arkansas to nine wins with the same level of talent that went back to back 2-10 seasons.
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