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If you have no head coach, should you be in the playoffs?
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:29 pm
No matter what happens after this weekend, Notre Dame will have no real head coach and no real chance to compete in the playoffs. We can all agree that Notre Dame should not given a spot no matter what happens this weekend.
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Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:30 pm to TexanTiger68
Yeah sure, coordinators do most of the work anyway
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:31 pm to TexanTiger68
The team put together an 11-1 record.
If that is enough for a playoff spot, they should get one. Period.
I don't believe in punishing a team for their coach leaving. If they can pull together and compete, they should have the opportunity to prove it.
If that is enough for a playoff spot, they should get one. Period.
I don't believe in punishing a team for their coach leaving. If they can pull together and compete, they should have the opportunity to prove it.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:32 pm to TexanTiger68
I think it’s kinda shitty to not allow a team that deserved to get there because their coach left.
That’s not to say I think ND will be in the playoffs but I think that by itself is a bad reason to keep them out.
That’s not to say I think ND will be in the playoffs but I think that by itself is a bad reason to keep them out.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:33 pm to piggilicious
Not sure that "deserved" has anything to do with it. 
Without their head coach, are they one of the four best teams?
Without their head coach, are they one of the four best teams?
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:34 pm to TexanTiger68
It will factor into the decision if it’s a close one.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:34 pm to TexanTiger68
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Without their head coach, are they one of the four best teams?
What would Kelly do for them that he hasn't already instilled in the team during the regular season? Or the past 9?
If you're going to hold ND accountable for not having a 13th game by virtue of being independent and not in a conference championship is absolutely fair.
Punishing the team because of their HC taking another gig while the season is very much in play is horse shite.
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:37 pm to RealDawg
It will, but it'll be bullshite. All the more reason to do away with this committee nonsense.
"Oh you won 11 games and looked pretty good doing it, that's good enough for a playoff spot!...oh, your coach just quit? Nevermind, we think you'll suck now so we aren't going to give you a chance to prove otherwise. Have fun in a meaningless bowl game."
This sport is broken.
"Oh you won 11 games and looked pretty good doing it, that's good enough for a playoff spot!...oh, your coach just quit? Nevermind, we think you'll suck now so we aren't going to give you a chance to prove otherwise. Have fun in a meaningless bowl game."
This sport is broken.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:38 pm to Krampus
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This sport is broken.
Wrong.
A&M and Notre Dame are the parts that are broken.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:41 pm to TexanTiger68
LSU fans would love it if somehow they pick a 2 loss Alabama in the playoffs over ND, based on the fact LSU plucked the coach that opens the door for Alabama.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:41 pm to TexanTiger68
Because I want a system where teams can earn their shot at a title by winning actual football games instead of by impressing some bullshite committee?
Ok.
Ok.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:45 pm to TexanTiger68
Yes
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:45 pm to Krampus
A&M didn't exactly do that.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:46 pm to TexanTiger68
Why should we punish the players because their coach quit on them?
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:49 pm to TexanTiger68
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A&M didn't exactly do that.
This discussion is about Notre Dame.
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:49 pm to TexanTiger68
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can all agree that Notre Dame should not given a spot no matter what happens this weekend.
No, we cant agree at all.
The requirement is to win games, not to have a head coach.
Did the whole Notre Dame team just quit?
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:52 pm to TexanTiger68
They take everything into account- injuries, player suspensions, everything. This will really hurt ND. They'll lose every tie-breaker imo.
Thinks for ND go get in- 2 of these 4 things would have to happen:
UM loses
Cincy loses
OSU cowboys lose
UGA destroys Bama
Thinks for ND go get in- 2 of these 4 things would have to happen:
UM loses
Cincy loses
OSU cowboys lose
UGA destroys Bama
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:58 pm to TexanTiger68
If after this weekend Notre Dame would go to the playoffs if Kelly was still the coach, then ND should also go to the playoffs without him. His coaching status should have zero bearing on that determination. The sport should be about the players and what they deserve.
If he turned up sick with Covid before the game, should they bring in a new team that has a head coach available? The answer is no. Same answer applies here.
If he turned up sick with Covid before the game, should they bring in a new team that has a head coach available? The answer is no. Same answer applies here.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:11 pm to WorkinDawg
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Thinks for ND go get in- 2 of these 4 things would have to happen:
UM loses
Cincy loses
OSU cowboys lose
UGA destroys Bama
I think there's a decent shot that two of these scenarios could happen. Will be interesting
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:12 pm to TexanTiger68
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Not sure that "deserved" has anything to do with it. Without their head coach, are they one of the four best teams?
By ‘deserved’ I meant of the 4 best or 4 perceived best - much like you’re saying. I’m not sure why you think penalizing a team because someone left is such a rad idea. If the police chief takes off a day does that mean the whole force doesn’t come in?
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