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re: If Alabama goes 11-1 but misses the playoff, are permanent opponents revisited?
Posted on 11/13/19 at 10:16 am to TheCaterpillar
Posted on 11/13/19 at 10:16 am to TheCaterpillar
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You are playing Western Carolina from the FCS this year. And they are currently 3-7 in the FCS. Bama's non-conference schedule this year might be the worst in P5.
Dude - frick you seriously.
Bama has played a better p5 schedule over the last decade than anyone else. Bama and Saban for years have called for the SEC to play more conference games. Saban has called for dropping these FCS opponents and play nothing but P5 games.
No surprise that no one else in the SEC or in P5 actually support that position. I certainly haven't seen LSU's coach or admin. take a public stance in that regard. Bama and Saban have been advocating for it for years.
As far as the Duke game goes, that is the risk we took when we signed up with that organization. They find the opponent not Bama. We agree to play whoever they can get from the ACC and the best they came up with is Duke
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 10:31 am to Draconian Sanctions
It will always depend on the schedule rotation and how good the teams are on that year. We could have had 2 of these USCe, Vandy, UK, Mizzo this year.
Bama can only play the sec teams on schedule and teams who are willing to play us OOC(it's tough to get good matchups every year)
Sure, I would rather play all teams more often than the current format allows.
TAMU is a good team but they've had a really tough schedule. Bama will not get credit for that win even though TAMU is a top 25 team but due to insane schedule they'll have 4-5 losses. They play 5 top 15, with 4 being top 5n (Clem, Au, Bama, Lsu & UGa
Same with AU. Losses @Lsu, @UF then they will be an underdog to UGA and Bama.
Should be a good win for Bama but in all likelyhood they won't be top 15 with an UGA loss.
What will be funny is if that were to happen then UT will turn corner to be a good team again. Then people will say Bama was scared of UT now they're good again. Plus, UTs record would be better without the guaranteed annual loss to Bama so their ranking will automatically be higher.
Bama can only play the sec teams on schedule and teams who are willing to play us OOC(it's tough to get good matchups every year)
Sure, I would rather play all teams more often than the current format allows.
TAMU is a good team but they've had a really tough schedule. Bama will not get credit for that win even though TAMU is a top 25 team but due to insane schedule they'll have 4-5 losses. They play 5 top 15, with 4 being top 5n (Clem, Au, Bama, Lsu & UGa
Same with AU. Losses @Lsu, @UF then they will be an underdog to UGA and Bama.
Should be a good win for Bama but in all likelyhood they won't be top 15 with an UGA loss.
What will be funny is if that were to happen then UT will turn corner to be a good team again. Then people will say Bama was scared of UT now they're good again. Plus, UTs record would be better without the guaranteed annual loss to Bama so their ranking will automatically be higher.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 10:35 am to TheCaterpillar
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Duke (4-5)
New Mexico State (0-9)
Southern Miss (6-3)
Western Carolina (3-7 IN FCS!
Please for the love of all that's good, ask your own athletic department how many years in advance are schedules made and how hard are P5 teams to schedule? You guys act like P5 teams are beating the doors down to play Bama, but they just won't schedule the games.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 10:59 am to crimson crazy
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The PAC 12 champ?
Could definitely happen. #6 vs #7 now, could be #5 vs #6 by then. Whoever won that game would have a better win than Alabama & there is interest in keeping cfb a national sport. Could go the other way too but to scoff at the possibility is just ignorant.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:03 am to Lg
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Duke (4-5)
New Mexico State (0-9)
Southern Miss (6-3)
Western Carolina (3-7 IN FCS!
There is no excuse for this. There are better teams who would have played Bama - period. UCF? Boise State? Neither of these teams would have wanted the chance? How about traveling more than 100 miles? Why not a home and home vs any number of teams?
I don't love the current system, but every team has to at least make real effort to play at a decent OOC opponent or two.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:04 am to Draconian Sanctions
Sankey even said there wasn't a push.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:06 am to Funky Tide 8
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Wow, just trying to keep up here.
I'm actually with you.
I can only troll so much. 
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:21 am to 14&Counting
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Dude - frick you seriously.
Woahhhhh
You said Bama and Saban are big advocates for not playing non-P5 teams. Yet, you have a fricking FCS team on your schedule.
That's not just non-P5. That isn't Division 1.
I'm not saying other schools aren't guilty, but quit acting like you're different. You aren't.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:22 am to Lg
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Please for the love of all that's good, ask your own athletic department how many years in advance are schedules made and how hard are P5 teams to schedule? You guys act like P5 teams are beating the doors down to play Bama, but they just won't schedule the games.
I think playing non FBS teams should be against the rules. Bama and LSU shouldn't be playing teams below their division.
There are plenty of FBS teams that would love to take a paycheck from big programs for a beat down.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:23 am to Draconian Sanctions
No, but the Sugar Bowl will be revisited.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:23 am to Draconian Sanctions
Honestly.... Why does Bama even want to play Tennessee anymore? It makes no sense. It is NOT a rivalry at this point. It hurts their schedule. It's just dumb.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:25 am to terriblegreen
I would be fine giving up Tennessee but quit acting like it’s all Bama. The Georgia Auburn game is one no one wants to see go away
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:28 am to Draconian Sanctions
Keep cross divisional rivalries and just add a second rotating cross divisional game. 9 game SEC schedule then the weak OOC game conversation will just go away.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:31 am to Draconian Sanctions
This board is eat up with straw man questions and contentions. If Bama is left out it will be because they finsh 11-1 to the SEC champions' 13-0 or 12-1. Playing a 13th game is a tangible qualification.
This post was edited on 11/13/19 at 11:34 am
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:34 am to 14&Counting
I think Saban and Gus have been the only ones wanting 9 conference games.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:47 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Under such a scenario the Tennessee and Duke games will have been the deciding factors in leaving Bama out. They have better OOC games coming up, it does the league office look to diversify the rotation an it more so Alabama has better resume in future years
The issue isn't OoC scheduling
The issue is that all P5 Conferences with split Divisions need to go to a 10-game conference sked
With the remaining 2 games they have to be at least G5 competition or higher
Giving ADs 4 Games of wiggle room on each year's schedule leaves too much room for padding the skeds with Cupcake City
Take as much scheduling as possible out of the hands of ADs that schedule based on the whims of the HC anyway, then SoS won't be the huge issue that it is now
Finally, no FCS vs P5 games ever, it ain't the job of P5 CFB to finance lower level FCS FB, let them solve their own financial issues
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:53 am to Draconian Sanctions
Of course not. Bama was intentionally put into a terrific position with the permanent opponents and they don't want to change that.*
They have two choices:
1. Scream about the unfairness and hope somebody with the authority to make a change to the playoff emphasis listens.
or
2. Start scheduling tougher OOC.
*Initially, Bama's permanent opponents were Tennessee and Vanderbilt. Bama lost Vandy, but they've still got a sweet deal with Tennessee.
They have two choices:
1. Scream about the unfairness and hope somebody with the authority to make a change to the playoff emphasis listens.
or
2. Start scheduling tougher OOC.
*Initially, Bama's permanent opponents were Tennessee and Vanderbilt. Bama lost Vandy, but they've still got a sweet deal with Tennessee.
This post was edited on 11/13/19 at 11:58 am
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:55 am to AUCE05
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You honestly think an 11-1 Bama team misses the playoffs?
Absolutely...
Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:00 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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The issue is that all P5 Conferences with split Divisions need to go to a 10-game conference sked
Why not all P5 go to a 9 game conference schedule and then only play P5 opponents from another conference on a rotating home and home?
It would kill G5 and FCS but it would make for much better football all the way around... The problem now is FBS has too many teams, period...
Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:32 pm to spacewrangler
Texas A&M would struggle no matter what conference, except for maybe the ACC. They are that bad and the ACC is that bad
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