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re: I ranked the SEC Head Football Coaches in this thread
Posted on 5/6/13 at 8:45 am to offshoretrash
Posted on 5/6/13 at 8:45 am to offshoretrash
Miles is probably #2, but I wouldn't say that's a given. It is a given that he is top 4, however. So yeah, this list is pretty flawed
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 8:46 am to WDE24
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Saban
Sumlin
Franklin
Spurrier
Miles
Richt
Bielema
Malzahn
Freeze
Muschamp
Mullen
Stoops
Jones
Pinkle
Why do you have Sumlin a head of Miles? Miles beat him on his home turf. The same aTm team that blew the doors off Bama.
WTF has Franklin won to be #3? How many years has he even been in the SEC? I know he is at a shite school and has done a great job but how can you justify him at 3?
Spurrier has had many opportunities to make the SEC championship game and has shite the bed every time. Heads up with Miles he hasn't won a game.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 8:49 am to offshoretrash
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The same aTm team that blew the doors off Bama.
Wut does this mean?
Posted on 5/6/13 at 8:51 am to Section 80
I guess a 5 point loss is "blowing the doors off" 
Posted on 5/6/13 at 8:53 am to offshoretrash
quote:Because Sumlin did more with Les (pun, haha) and I think he is the better coach.
Miles beat him on his home turf.
quote:Are you serious? He has been to back to back to bowl games with Vandy in his first two years. It would be comical to see Les try to win at Vandy.
WTF has Franklin won to be #3?
quote:Because he has done a great job at a shite school.
I know he is at a shite school and has done a great job but how can you justify him at 3?
quote:Yes and he is doing so at South fricking Carolina. Almost as hard as winning at Vandy and possibly harder than doing so at MSU or Ole Miss.
Spurrier has had many opportunities to make the SEC championship game and has shite the bed every time. Heads up with Miles he hasn't won a game.
Miles' accomplishments are spectacular for a man with his mental handicap, but in my opinion the others are better coaches. Hell, I ranked him over a few that are probably better coaches than he is simply because i can't completely ignore his accomplishments.
This post was edited on 5/6/13 at 8:54 am
Posted on 5/6/13 at 9:06 am to WDE24
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Miles' accomplishments are spectacular for a man with his mental handicap, but in my opinion the others are better coaches. Hell, I ranked him over a few that are probably better coaches than he is simply because i can't completely ignore his accomplishments.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 9:07 am to WDE24
Miles has a National Championship Ring(Not to far of from two), 2 SEC championships. And he has produced NFL players as well as any other school in the country. Is Les Miles at a better university? Yes. But putting coaches ahead of him that have only ever won a youth basketball participation trophy is unfair to what he has accomplished in his career.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 9:09 am to WDE24
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Because Sumlin did more with Les (pun, haha)
What? You do realise he had the #2 draft pick at left tackle, the Heisman trophy winner at QB and daft picks at RB and WR. He was not working with less.
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I think he is the better coach.
See this is what pisses me off. Just because YOU don't like Mile you THINK he is not good but you never use facts to make your point.
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he is doing so at South fricking Carolina
He is the ole ball coach he would win where ever he went. I'm not taking that away from him but to be ranked above another coach wouldn't actually have to beat that coach at some point in time?
Miles beat big game Bob while at OK lite with lesser teams. But you wouldn't use that in your ranking would you?
Posted on 5/6/13 at 9:10 am to WDE24
Sumlin at 2? Lulz.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 9:14 am to offshoretrash
quote:Yes.
You do realise he had the #2 draft pick at left tackle,
quote:Sumlin and his offense made Johnny football, not the other way around.
the Heisman trophy winner at QB
quote:Oh, ok. I could have sworn LSU has way more NFL caliber players than A&M. Maybe I am wrong. Am I?
He was not working with less.
quote:I like Miles, I just think he is mentally deficient as a coach.
See this is what pisses me off. Just because YOU don't like Mile you THINK he is not good
quote:So. I can have a subjective opinion can't I?
you never use facts to make your point.
quote:No, not necessarily. Switch Miles to USCe and the ole ball coach to LSU and what do you think their accomplishments look like?
I'm not taking that away from him but to be ranked above another coach wouldn't actually have to beat that coach at some point in time?
This post was edited on 5/6/13 at 9:19 am
Posted on 5/6/13 at 9:22 am to WDE24
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Sumlin and his offense made Johnny football, not the other way around.
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You of all people should know how one player can make a coach look like a genius. How quickly AU fans forget?
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I just think he is mentally deficient as a coach.
I just love how people say this then he goes out and beats the shite out of your team. Sorry but there are no dummies coaching college football.
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Switch Miles to USCe and the ole ball coach to LSU and what do you think their accomplishments look like?
Mile already proved himself at a smaller school. If Spurrier is so damn great what the hell is he doing at USCe?
Posted on 5/6/13 at 9:25 am to offshoretrash
quote:So you ignore the number of points Sumlin's offense was able to put up at Houston? Or the fact that Malzahn's offenses have been good wherever he has been? That is fine, but I give credence to these facts.
You of all people should know how one player can make a coach look like a genius. How quickly AU fans forget?
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Sorry but there are no dummies coaching college football.
LINK quote:So you ignore the question. What do you think Miles' accomplishments would look like if he came to the SEC at a school like Vandy or USCe or MSU?
Mile already proved himself at a smaller school.
This post was edited on 5/6/13 at 9:26 am
Posted on 5/6/13 at 9:29 am to WDE24
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So you ignore the number of points Sumlin's offense was able to put up at Houston?
The good DCs could figure it out.
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Or the fact that Malzahn's offenses have been good wherever he has been?
See above.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 9:31 am to WDE24
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WDE24
You should have just waited to post this after an LSU loss, then there would be no dissent re: Les Miles.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 9:32 am to WDE24
Saban = It's not even close
Spurrier = these 3 have proven it over time
Miles
Richt
Sumlin = these 2 I think will prove it over time because in recruiting sweet spot
Muschamp
Mullen = all are capable, but not enough data or in tough place
Franklin (tough place)
Stoops (tough place)
Jones (lack data)
Pinkle (tough place)
Bielema (lack data)
Malzahn (lack data)
Freeze (not much data)
Spurrier = these 3 have proven it over time
Miles
Richt
Sumlin = these 2 I think will prove it over time because in recruiting sweet spot
Muschamp
Mullen = all are capable, but not enough data or in tough place
Franklin (tough place)
Stoops (tough place)
Jones (lack data)
Pinkle (tough place)
Bielema (lack data)
Malzahn (lack data)
Freeze (not much data)
This post was edited on 5/6/13 at 9:34 am
Posted on 5/6/13 at 9:35 am to VirgilCaine
Seriously. Of course Miles has accomplished more in his career than most others, but a large part of my analysis was focusing on coaching ability. If every SEC coach had teams with identical players, which would be the best coach. Frankly, if I stuck to this analysis exclusively, Miles would be ranked much lower. However, I did also consider past accomplishments as well and that helped coaches such as Miles and Richt.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 10:35 am to WDE24
I think based solely on the fact of Mullen turning around the entire program and making us a consistent bowl team should put him in the top half as of right now. I mean hell, not but 5 years ago, we struggled to win just 3 games and now everyone is disappointed if we don't win at least 8 every year. The attitude of State fans and it's program has changed drastically in the Mullen era and that can't be denied by anyone.
nb4you'regonnabedisapointedthisyear
nb4you'regonnabedisapointedthisyear
Posted on 5/6/13 at 10:40 am to TT9
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I guess a 5 point loss is "blowing the doors off"
We are all very proud that you put up ultimately meaningless points that cut the 20 point deficit you guys dug for yourselves.
I guess Auburn is the only team that can close a deficit that large in Brian Dennehy.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 10:45 am to WDE24
Yep you dumb..Posted on 5/6/13 at 10:47 am to TigerBait2008
WDE, I liked your running back rankings better because they were easier to predict. One was Dyer no matter what.
This was the last one I could find
This was the last one I could find
This post was edited on 5/6/13 at 10:49 am
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