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Hypothetical regarding players and in season quarantine
Posted on 5/26/20 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 5/26/20 at 12:21 pm
Knowing that a potential positive test in season could result in a mandatory two week period where you couldnt play or practice....if you were a player who would get significant playing time at an SEC program, would you choose to self inoculate CV in the summer to avoid possibly having yo quarantine during the season?
Should this option be offered to athletes?
Should this option be offered to athletes?
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Posted on 5/26/20 at 12:51 pm to chateaublanc
How would one inoculate prior to the release of a vaccine? Fly to Wuhan and roll around naked in a wet market?
Posted on 5/26/20 at 12:56 pm to NineLineBind
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How would one inoculate prior to the release of a vaccine? Fly to Wuhan and roll around naked in a wet market?
This post was edited on 5/26/20 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 5/26/20 at 1:09 pm to NineLineBind
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How would one inoculate prior to the release of a vaccine? Fly to Wuhan and roll around naked in a wet market?
What?
I suppose I could have used that term incorrectly.
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inoculate
verb [ T ]
UK /?'n?k.j?.le?t/ US /?'n??.kj?.le?t/
to give a weak form of a disease to a person or animal, usually by injection, as a protection against that disease:
Lets ignore the use of inoculate. Would you give yourself the virus now as opposed to getting it later when the timing would be disastrous
This post was edited on 5/26/20 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 5/26/20 at 1:16 pm to chateaublanc
Do you mean intentionally catch it?
Probably not a terrible idea, as for healthy athletes between 18-22 the effects are minimal statistically.
But all you'd need is 1 bad case....
Probably not a terrible idea, as for healthy athletes between 18-22 the effects are minimal statistically.
But all you'd need is 1 bad case....
Posted on 5/26/20 at 2:01 pm to chateaublanc
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Would you give yourself the virus now...
And how exactly would you do that?
Posted on 5/26/20 at 2:08 pm to chateaublanc
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Should this option be offered to athletes?
are you seriously asking if colleges should assist amateur athletes to intentionally contract a disease in order to avoid temporary loss of availability for competition?
like. I think we are massively overreacting to covid, that it is not as deadly as people are worried it is, but holy shite dude. that's insane.
This post was edited on 5/26/20 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 5/26/20 at 2:20 pm to BamaGradinTn
quote:Jeez, that's not really that hard to figure out. The VAST majority of Covid cases are doing the quarantine-at-home thing, not locked up in a hospital. They aren't being guarded by the army or anything. It's basically a cold, unless/until it goes bad.quote:
Would you give yourself the virus now...
And how exactly would you do that?
Gonna guess between 80+ scholarship players, additional student/friends, the AD staff and boosters, SOMEONE will know somebody currently sitting at home with it. Go hang out and get exposed, then bring it back and expose the rest of the team.
Media- LSU and Alabama (for example) had a covid outbreak in early June, everyone took 2 wks off, all players report healthy by the end of the month and are now not concerned about possible exposures inseason.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 3:16 pm to BearBait09
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are you seriously asking if colleges should assist amateur athletes to intentionally contract a disease in order to avoid temporary loss of availability for competition?
like. I think we are massively overreacting to covid, that it is not as deadly as people are worried it is, but holy shite dude. that's insane.
Not insane at all. Could be applied to various professional or academic settings.
Just look at it pragmatically. If you knew you werent at risk, wouldnt you rather get the virus in a time period when you have plenty of downtime as opposed to a time that is super important to your life?
What if say Auburn is undefeated going into the Georgia game with Bama on deck and Bo Nix, tested positive during mandated athlete testing. Auburn would be sitting their starting QB during the two most important games of the season.
If im Bo Nix, I say give me the weakest form of the virus in June, then you dont even have to worry about testing during the season much less the possibility of missing games that could define my career and life.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 3:18 pm to chateaublanc
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would you choose to self inoculate CV in the summer
Posted on 5/26/20 at 3:21 pm to BamaGradinTn
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And how exactly would you do that?
This I dont know. Its a hypothetical. Im certain docs could find a way to isolate a strain and give it to people
Posted on 5/26/20 at 3:21 pm to chateaublanc
Any other dumb ideas or just the one?
Posted on 5/26/20 at 3:32 pm to WilliamTaylor21
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Any other dumb ideas or just the one?
I was purposely exposed to chickenpox as a kid as were thousands, maybe millions of others. Covid to a healthy 20 year old is about as harmless as chickenpox to a 4 year old
Posted on 5/26/20 at 4:38 pm to chateaublanc
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I was purposely exposed to chickenpox as a kid as were thousands, maybe millions of others. Covid to a healthy 20 year old is about as harmless as chickenpox to a 4 year old
maybe you're not upto snuff on the latest medical thinking, because doctors advise against doing that these days.
there are a host of differences between chickenpox and corona that would make this a terrible comparison, but the main reason this idea is insanely stupid is any school or organization that did this would get sued into the stone age the first time someone intentionally got sick for them and had a bad outcome.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 4:49 pm to BearBait09
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maybe you're not upto snuff on the latest medical thinking, because doctors advise against doing that these days.
Obviously because they have an actual vaccine now.
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there are a host of differences between chickenpox and corona that would make this a terrible comparison, but the main reason this idea is insanely stupid is any school or organization that did this would get sued into the stone age the first time someone intentionally got sick for them and had a bad outcome.
Sorry, my mind works in a very much pragmatic fashion. I dont see things through the lens of liability. Im sure its entirely possible that a school could get sued.
I do find it kinda disturbing how much people have been conditioned to lash out against pragmatic ideas. Im a carpenter, I have to problem solve to get work done. I cant sit around waiting for a lawyer or computer to tell me what to do.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 5:28 pm to BamaGradinTn
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And how exactly would you do that?
Go live in a nursing home. This is the most popular route to date for catching the virus. By far.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 9:41 pm to chateaublanc
If only saves one loss....
In reality, what will probably happen is Murphy’s Law will kick in. One of three things will happen, and two of them are bad.
Those trying to get infected will either a) develop antibodies as you say, b) have delayed onset and still miss the balance of the season or c) get sick and die this summer.
In reality, what will probably happen is Murphy’s Law will kick in. One of three things will happen, and two of them are bad.
Those trying to get infected will either a) develop antibodies as you say, b) have delayed onset and still miss the balance of the season or c) get sick and die this summer.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:16 am to chateaublanc
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I do find it kinda disturbing how much people have been conditioned to lash out against pragmatic ideas. Im a carpenter, I have to problem solve to get work done. I cant sit around waiting for a lawyer or computer to tell me what to do.
It's unclear to me how exactly you ignore liability as a pragmatic consideration.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:36 am to NineLineBind
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Those trying to get infected will either a) develop antibodies as you say, b) have delayed onset and still miss the balance of the season or c) get sick and die this summer.
Delayed onset? Ive seen no evidence that the virus can infect, then delay onset for 4 months. Im certain you just made that up.
I havent seen one single incident where a healthy 20 year old has died from this virus but lets play this out....lets say a player has some kind of underlying condition that makes him more likely to have complications. Itd be much better for him to catch the virus in a controlled environment where he immediately is receiving treatment and is monitored by a doctor, as opposed to catching it randomly and potentially practice/lift/play while sick, compromising his immune response.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:46 am to chateaublanc
Let me word that differently. What I meant was imagine someone trying in vain to get infected, only to have the virus "take" at the wrong time.
I would also point you to the recent post about liability. Give it time and there will be alot of people getting sued for allowing the virus to spread. Purposefully spreading it? That would lead to a whole other level of lawsuits.
I would also point you to the recent post about liability. Give it time and there will be alot of people getting sued for allowing the virus to spread. Purposefully spreading it? That would lead to a whole other level of lawsuits.
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