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re: How would you compare Manziel and Tebow?
Posted on 5/17/13 at 5:00 pm to therick711
Posted on 5/17/13 at 5:00 pm to therick711
Posted on 5/17/13 at 5:01 pm to DMagic
Also, wind can't stop the Runslinger because, he can't throw accurately anyway.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 5:05 pm to Fipitan
More precise. If I said 6' everybody assumes its padded and he's really 5'10".
So I said 72". Because when asked he said "I'm exactly 72 inches"
So I said 72". Because when asked he said "I'm exactly 72 inches"
Posted on 5/17/13 at 7:09 pm to Big Kat
Tebow took some hits in SEC play that would have ended Manziels life. The guy was automatic at the goalline.
In 2007 he won the heisman behind ufs worst defense in three decades. I think its hilarious right now that manziel is getting compared to tebow.
Hell if aj mcarron doesnt mess up at the end of that game were not even having this discussion.
In 2007 he won the heisman behind ufs worst defense in three decades. I think its hilarious right now that manziel is getting compared to tebow.
Hell if aj mcarron doesnt mess up at the end of that game were not even having this discussion.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 7:18 pm to slayerxing
Don't act like its not a comparison.
Through 2 years on campus Tenow was a 3rd down specialist and then won a Heisman after going 8-4 or 9-3.
Johnny redshirted behind a Top 10 pick and then won the Heisman in a 10-2 season breaking records Tebow and Cam set before him.
And Tebow took those licks because that's his style. Nobody has gotten that shot on Johnny. He's too elusive and slippery
Through 2 years on campus Tenow was a 3rd down specialist and then won a Heisman after going 8-4 or 9-3.
Johnny redshirted behind a Top 10 pick and then won the Heisman in a 10-2 season breaking records Tebow and Cam set before him.
And Tebow took those licks because that's his style. Nobody has gotten that shot on Johnny. He's too elusive and slippery
Posted on 5/17/13 at 7:46 pm to Big Kat
Not even a discussion yet, Tebow better. Re-apply in twelve months. Just win baby... That's how we measure in the SEC.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 7:48 pm to biggsc
Could Florida have won with Manziel at QB.......FIFY
Posted on 5/17/13 at 7:55 pm to gateway2mizzou01
UF probably, atm did not.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 7:59 pm to gateway2mizzou01
Of course. And unlike Tebow, Manziel would've led UF to double digit wins during his Heisman season.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 8:00 pm to slayerxing
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Tebow took some hits in SEC play that would have ended Manziels life.
That's Tebow's fault. Not JFF's fault he's too fast for most defenders to get a solid hit on him.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 8:15 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Can we compare the most relevant stats of the two?
Tebow's 2nd year vs Manziel's 2nd year?
Tim Tebow 2007:
Passing-
234-350, 66.9%, 3286 Yards, 32 TDs, 6 Ints, 172.5 QBR
Rushing-
210 Rushes, 895 Yards, 23 TDs
Johnny Manziel 2012:
Passing-
295-434, 68.0%, 3706 Yards, 26 TDs, 9 Ints, 155.3 QBR
Rushing-
201 Rushes, 1409 Yards, 21 TDs
Looks pretty clear who was more dominant.
Tebow's 2nd year vs Manziel's 2nd year?
Tim Tebow 2007:
Passing-
234-350, 66.9%, 3286 Yards, 32 TDs, 6 Ints, 172.5 QBR
Rushing-
210 Rushes, 895 Yards, 23 TDs
Johnny Manziel 2012:
Passing-
295-434, 68.0%, 3706 Yards, 26 TDs, 9 Ints, 155.3 QBR
Rushing-
201 Rushes, 1409 Yards, 21 TDs
Looks pretty clear who was more dominant.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 8:17 pm to Big Kat
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Through 2 years on campus Tenow was a 3rd down specialist and then won a Heisman after going 8-4 or 9-3.
Tebow won a Heisman as a True Sophomore.
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Johnny redshirted behind a Top 10 pick and then won the Heisman in a 10-2 season breaking records Tebow and Cam set before him.
Tebow's 2007 season and Cam's 2010 season were statistically better than Manziel's 2012 season.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 8:27 pm to joshnorris14
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Looks pretty clear who was more dominant.
Lol no.
Tebow had a handful more touchdowns, and based on the quality of his team, it's probably because he played more than JFF did. But even if he didn't, those numbers absolutely do not indicate that Tebow was "clearly" more dominant. He had 3 less pics and a few more TDs. Manziel was better in everything else--including wins.
This post was edited on 5/17/13 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 5/17/13 at 8:34 pm to DWag215
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He had 3 less pics and a few more TDs
He had 8 more TDs. His TD to Int ratio was 5.4:1 compared to Manziel's sub-3:1.
Also, Manziel played so many more downs as evidenced by an additional 150 passing attempts.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 8:38 pm to joshnorris14
Yeah, and those 8 TDs don't make up for his 2 fewer wins and nearly 1,000 less yards.
I mean, are you serious?
ETA: Manziel played in a hurry up offense. I'd feel confident guaranteeing he played less minutes. Regardless, he was more productive and efficient as a passer and a runner. He did throw 3 more pics, though.
I mean, are you serious?
ETA: Manziel played in a hurry up offense. I'd feel confident guaranteeing he played less minutes. Regardless, he was more productive and efficient as a passer and a runner. He did throw 3 more pics, though.
This post was edited on 5/17/13 at 8:42 pm
Posted on 5/17/13 at 8:42 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Have you ever heard it's like comparing oranges to apples? Manziel vs Tebow is like comparing Shaq and Jordan.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 8:57 pm to bisonduck
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Manziel vs Tebow is like comparing Shaq and Jordan
It's more like comparing Magic Johnson to Steve Nash.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 9:07 pm to JustGetItRight
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I'm not saying he won't come out and light it up again this year
Johnny lights it up on a daily basis jack.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 9:37 pm to joshnorris14
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Tebow's 2007 season and Cam's 2010 season were statistically better than Manziel's 2012 season.
Keep in mind Newton played one more game in his Heisman season than either Tebow or Manziel
Completion %
2012 Manziel > 2007 Tebow > 2010 Newton (14)
Passing Yards
2012 Manziel > 2007 Tebow > 2010 Newton (14)
Passing TDs
2007 Tebow > 2010 Newton (14) > 2012 Manziel
Fewest INTs
2007 Tebow > 2010 Newton (14) > 2012 Manziel
Rush Yards
2010 Newton (14) > 2012 Manziel > 2007 Tebow
Rush TD
2007 Tebow = 2010 Newton (14) > 2012 Manziel
Total Offense
2012 Manziel > 2010 Newton (14) > 2007 Tebow
Total TDs
2007 Tebow > 2010 Newton (14) > 2012 Manziel
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