re: How much has aTm joining hurt Arkansas?

I was not aware of Sam's history with being an Arkansas fan growing up.And this is basically his dream job.

Sam knows SEC talent and was having very good coaches wanting to work for him.He is a better gamble than another high school coach who had a nest on the ground job.

We'll see,Sam's a damn good man.

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aTm has accomplished exactly zero notable hardware since joining the SEC

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Since A&M joined the SEC in 2012:

SEC Championships (not including track and field and cross-country)

Texas A&M - 20
Arkansas - 2

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The media was in complete denial that Highland lost to a team from Arkansas.

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Two thoughts here. That was one of the weaker HP teams in memory. That squad got smoked in the second round of the state playoffs that year.

Secondly, Highland Park is definitely not a proxy for Texas athletic talent. Its squads are bunch of mildly athletic kids who are drilled endlessly starting in 5th grade. This allows them to overachieve in their good years against better raw athletic talent. If Pulaski had beat Duncanville or Houston North Shore or Allen than I would give you your point.

I remember when Shiloah Christian played some big time team from Dallas (I think) and it was super hyped in Arkansas for being a high school game. Shiloh got absolutely massacred. It was genuinely embarrassing that the game even got scheduled.

No matter what happens with Pittman I think you will get some talent with that staff. Might be a situation where he builds a nice foundation and the next guy is the one who comes in and really wins

nobody gives a shite about both sets to be honest.

Shiloh Christian had no business playing that game. They weren't even close to the best team in the state. Bentonville should have played instead, it would have been a watchable game.

Joining in the chorus of it pretty much being bad leadership which has resulted in soft teams with a quit spirit, players out of position at the snap, terrible halftime adjustments, etc. Weakness in high school football hurts too.

Now I do also think that we have had an undue amount just bad in-game luck. But not a major factor overall.

A&M joining? Maybe hurt recruiting a smidge from one less home game every other season,but nothing major.

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leadership

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Speaking of which, Frank Broyles died on this day in 2017: Tulsa World article on the anniversary

I do think that Arkansas needs to have recruiting success in the Metroplex for them to be successful. This is why our game is at Jerryworld. The great Arkansas coaches know this. I honestly don’t them Arkansas leaving the SWC 4 years early hurt them that much. But I can’t help but wonder if they would have stayed to the end what a XII with Arkansas instead of (say...Baylor) would have looked like. Or would A&M have gone to the SEC alone at that time instead???

The rise of Bobby Stoops and Mack Brown probably hurt both A&M and Arkansas equally.

Both LSU and A&M recruit well in the others’ state when they are good. It’s just always been that way.