re: How dominant is the SEC in football? Numbers don’t lie...

Yes they were.

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how do you figure?

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Pretty simple

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Indeed.

Seems to me LSU owns OSU. And we just won the NC with the greatest team Eva bitch boy

LSU is 1-1-1 against Ohio State. Congrats on finally winning a game and evening up the series well over a decade ago, though.

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greatest team

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Not even top 5.

I didn’t mean it specific to games against OSU. Was suggesting the SEC’s numbers as a whole would look better, and making an argument against cherry-picking teams irrespective the time period when the teams were in the conference.

It was just an example to illustrate a point.

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@Buckeye, not sure why you’re so worked up. Nowhere did I say OSU doesn’t/didn’t belong.

OSU is to the B1G as Bama is to the SEC. The OP is relevant in years like this one where there are 3 obvious playoff teams and a bunch of teams with similar resumes.

For example, comparing Oklahoma’s 2019 team with Bama, Florida or Georgia, it seemed obvious to me that all three of those SEC teams were better than OU, and all three had a better shot at winning one or more games.

The point isn’t to dis OSU or Clemson. It’s for years when say Michigan, OU (just as examples) or whatever team from the PAC 12 or BIG 12 is vying for that 4th playoff spot against a one or two loss SEC team.

Even at 10-2, in my opinion Bama had a better chance of beating any of the top 3 than any other team including one loss teams. Hell, even Auburn at 9-3 was capable of beating anyone.

The SEC is like the NFL in that the “best” team in a given year doesn’t necessarily have the best record through 12 games. There are too many teams that are capable of winning any game for everyone to go unscathed.

If the top 4 SEC teams all played each other, at least three will lose at least once. The point is that in most years, there are SEC teams with losses at the end of the regular season that are more likely to win it all if selected to the playoff than one or more conference champs from the other P5, AAC and MW.

I’m not saying that’s the case in every year with every conference. Clearly, OSU and Clemson were top 3 this year. The purpose of the OP is to offer food for thought regarding playoff team selection in years when multiple teams from multiple conferences can all make a case for inclusion in the CFB Playoff.

I personally think OSU was better than Clemson despite losing the semifinal. I was kind of glad Clemson won (even though I felt OSU was cheated out of at least one TD on offense and possibly one on defense too) because I thought they’d be an easier matchup for LSU in the final.

In the same sense, I was glad OU got in at the 4 seed instead of Alabama or Florida because I believe both Bama and UF were more likely to pull an upset and beat LSU (and potentially whoever made the final).

Point being you have no reason to be upset. Relax dude. The OP isn’t about Ohio State. Most of it consisted of irrefutable facts, and my opinions were clearly identified as such. Nowhere did I say OSU was undeserving in 2019, or that it isn’t a bona fide championship caliber program.

Bama didn’t play a particularly grueling schedule and lost twice, but it is my opinion that they were still the most likely team to get a win in the semis as the 4 seed, and if I was a committee member, I would have penciled them in at 4. Reason being, where Oklahoma struggled with middle-of-the-pack BIG 12 teams (teams that collectively won one bowl game), Bama was slaughtering SEC teams that were comparable if not slightly better than the teams taking Oklahoma to the wire. The SEC teams also went 8-2 in the postseason, further supporting the claim that the mid-tier SEC teams were better football teams than their BIG 12 counterparts.

Also worthy of consideration is that one of their losses was to the #1 team, and the other was to their main rival who also played LSU closer than anyone else. Bama lost by fewer points to LSU than anyone else but Auburn, and Bama would’ve beaten Auburn decisively with Tua or with Jones if he had another start or two under his belt. Bama’s injuries hit them at the worst possible time. If not for the two pick sixes, Bama wins that game by two-plus scores.

Clemson eventually lost to LSU too, and they didn’t even keep it close. It was a 17 point margin, and LSU left 17 points on the field with a dropped TD pass Chase makes 98 times out of 100, a missed FG (+/- 75-80% chance he makes that kick), and taking a mercy knee at the 1 with a minute and a half left.

Clemson only played one game all year against a team as good as Auburn, and that was in the semifinal. And Clemson was very lucky to win that game, and some would say they were outplayed.

Bama was an onsides kick or defensive stop away from having a chance to take the lead in the 4th quarter against LSU. Florida was tied with LSU late in the third, and was the only team all season to have the ball in the 4th with a chance to take the lead with a score (and 2-point conversion, XP would have tied it).

Bama destroyed Michigan playing their backup QB, and would’ve beaten anyone else from any other conference besides Clemson and OSU. The same is likely true of Florida. Georgia was capable of beating anyone, but their WTF loss to South Carolina would have kept them out of the conversation this past year.

Then again, as you’re well aware, an LSU team with two WTF losses dominated #1 Ohio State to win the championship in 2007. You can count the number of undefeated NFL teams (regular season) in the modern era on one hand.

While perhaps not quite as rare an accomplishment as going 16-0 in the NFL, the fact that Bama typically loses a conference game before eventually making it to the championship (and usually winning it) speaks to just how tough the SEC is, and why an SEC loss (or even two) shouldn’t automatically disqualify an SEC team from playoff consideration.

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Conference cheerleading is so gay !

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You say this because your conference sucks.

The southeast/CFB have passed the sunbelt/west coast dominance of college baseball in consideration of land mass.

This won’t be changing anytime soon. If Texas, USC, FSU, Miami, Michigan & Notre Dame don’t get their shite together the SEC is simply going to continue to dominant outside of the tOSUs OU & Clemsons of the world that are keeping things honest.

I'm not angry, and you have no idea what's happening.