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Honest question, if you were commish back in 2012, would you take UCF over Mizzou?
Posted on 10/27/22 at 11:24 am
Posted on 10/27/22 at 11:24 am
UCF has some weirdos like Mizzou too but are they a better fit? Would they bring more to the table than Mizzou given a decade in the SEC by now with SEC money flowing in and an already great G5 fan base that could easily become a good P5 fan base given the platform. Geographically it couldn’t be a better spot, Georgia to north a couple hours, centrally located in Florida and could recruit border to border. Warm weather, maybe they would buy into baseball a bit more than Mizzou (not saying much, they must not average more than a couple hunred per game ACTUAL attendance). I mean we were told Mizzou was a basketball school but…. 10 years of being in SEC and Mizzou stuck in a collapsing big 12, would UCF be a better program in all big 3 sports than Mizzou right now if they had joined back in 2012? Surely they have better looking women than Mizzou.
This is a UCF/Mizzou discussion, yes I know there are 8-10 P5 schools within SEC footprint or SEC footprint fringe that without a doubt would’ve been stronger additions
This is a UCF/Mizzou discussion, yes I know there are 8-10 P5 schools within SEC footprint or SEC footprint fringe that without a doubt would’ve been stronger additions
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Posted on 10/27/22 at 11:24 am to holdmydak
Nope
UCF doesn't expand the viewership or fanbase whereas Missouri does.
It's all about the money.
UCF doesn't expand the viewership or fanbase whereas Missouri does.
It's all about the money.
Posted on 10/27/22 at 11:25 am to holdmydak
Honest answer:
No. At the time, TV contracts were area/market based. Florida was already covered. Missouri was the second biggest un-tapped SEC market. #1 was Texas.
Thus, Missouri and A&M.
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No. At the time, TV contracts were area/market based. Florida was already covered. Missouri was the second biggest un-tapped SEC market. #1 was Texas.
Thus, Missouri and A&M.
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Posted on 10/27/22 at 11:25 am to Killean
In addition, Florida would probably vote No
Posted on 10/27/22 at 11:27 am to holdmydak
Still have no idea how Missouri ended up in the SEC. Back in 2012, I would have taken someone else. Neither team adds anything to the conference.
Posted on 10/27/22 at 11:27 am to holdmydak
No
No
Florida is already a SEC market. No need for another school there. Missouri opened up a new market for the conference.
ucf is where they belong. Case closed.
No
Florida is already a SEC market. No need for another school there. Missouri opened up a new market for the conference.
ucf is where they belong. Case closed.
Posted on 10/27/22 at 11:28 am to holdmydak
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I mean we were told Mizzou was a basketball school but…. 10 years of being in SEC and Mizzou stuck in a collapsing big 12
We're 2-0 against UCF in basketball since joining..1-0 in football during that time.
Posted on 10/27/22 at 11:30 am to ReversePiggie
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Still have no idea how Missouri ended up in the SEC. Back in 2012, I would have taken someone else. Neither team adds anything to the conference.
In 2012 mizzou basketball was top 5 in the country, baseball was B12 champs, and just a few years before mizzou was top 5 in football.
Posted on 10/27/22 at 11:31 am to holdmydak
Easy, NO.
Posted on 10/27/22 at 11:31 am to holdmydak
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would you take UCF over Mizzou?
no, UCF would be way down the list of schools i'd take over Missouri
Posted on 10/27/22 at 11:32 am to holdmydak
No.
Posted on 10/27/22 at 11:32 am to holdmydak
Here's the thing.
UCF is basically a giant community college that expanded w/ Orlando. It's less than 60 years old. In FL, it's the back-up school that EVERYONE can get into.
So, NO, I wouldn't take UCF over Mizzou.
UCF is basically a giant community college that expanded w/ Orlando. It's less than 60 years old. In FL, it's the back-up school that EVERYONE can get into.
So, NO, I wouldn't take UCF over Mizzou.
Posted on 10/27/22 at 11:33 am to holdmydak
We should have taken UCF over A&M. Missouri won their division twice and their teams those two years were actually pretty legit.
Posted on 10/27/22 at 11:55 am to KaiserSoze99
I would be interested to see an actual number on what Mizzou brings, ratings wise, what does it equal in end of year conference split pay outs?
Posted on 10/27/22 at 12:10 pm to holdmydak
Not at all.
Expanding the TV footprint was the paradigm in 2012. UCF wouldn't have done that.
Not to mention, why would the SEC have wanted to scavenge up a (at the time) CUSA team. All the conference realignment going on was BCS AQ conferences raiding other BCS conferences, and CUSA wasn't that.
Expanding the TV footprint was the paradigm in 2012. UCF wouldn't have done that.
Not to mention, why would the SEC have wanted to scavenge up a (at the time) CUSA team. All the conference realignment going on was BCS AQ conferences raiding other BCS conferences, and CUSA wasn't that.
Posted on 10/27/22 at 12:13 pm to holdmydak
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I would be interested to see an actual number on what Mizzou brings, ratings wise, what does it equal in end of year conference split pay outs?
That’s not the way it worked. Back then, Slive was able to negotiate a massive deal and launch the SEC Network based on the anticipated increased revenue from adding A&M & Mizzou. Much of it from adding the new SEC Network to in place cable subscriptions in both markets.
The market nowadays is tending toward streaming, but back then it was a windfall contract!
Posted on 10/27/22 at 12:17 pm to ReversePiggie
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Still have no idea how Missouri ended up in the SEC. Back in 2012, I would have taken someone else. Neither team adds anything to the conference.
This is the correct answer.
Posted on 10/27/22 at 12:23 pm to holdmydak
With the benefit of hindsight, I would veto expansion. 
Posted on 10/27/22 at 12:24 pm to holdmydak
If you were commish back in 1992-3, would you take Clemson over South Carolina?
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