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re: Has sc surpassed Tennessee in the east pecking order?
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:39 am to mountain D values
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:39 am to mountain D values
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Were you alive in 1980? Early returns say no, but your posting could also signal that you are old and out of touch with the internet
You will also be alive to see Tennessee go winless in SEC play. I've never seen Georgia do that...
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:48 am to ZeusStamos
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I've never seen Georgia win a national championship
we know dude
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:51 am to VFL1800FPD
You will never see Tennessee win the SEC East again.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:58 am to ZeusStamos
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I hope You will never see Tennessee win the SEC East again.
Alright, thats fair
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:59 am to U_south_cack
Are they ahead in the Standings? Yes.
Have they been better the past 10 years? Yes
Are they now a better program than Tennessee? No
People just do not seem to get it that a few great years or a few bad years strung together do not overcome literal decades of history for a program.
National Titles:
Tennessee- 2
S. Carolina- 0
Top 5 Finishes:
Tennessee- 13
S. Carolina- 1
Top 10 Finishes:
Tennessee- 23
S. Carolina- 3
Top 25 Finishes:
Tennessee- 44
S. Carolina- 9
The obvious answer is absolutely NO, S. Carolina has not surpassed Tennessee in the East pecking order. And it will not in your lifetime.
Tennessee is and will likely forever be Big 6. If this dreadful past 13 years (just one finish in the Top 20) continues for another 20 years, then they may begin to be in danger of losing "Big 6" status.... but it literally takes a generation for these things to happen.
Have they been better the past 10 years? Yes
Are they now a better program than Tennessee? No
People just do not seem to get it that a few great years or a few bad years strung together do not overcome literal decades of history for a program.
National Titles:
Tennessee- 2
S. Carolina- 0
Top 5 Finishes:
Tennessee- 13
S. Carolina- 1
Top 10 Finishes:
Tennessee- 23
S. Carolina- 3
Top 25 Finishes:
Tennessee- 44
S. Carolina- 9
The obvious answer is absolutely NO, S. Carolina has not surpassed Tennessee in the East pecking order. And it will not in your lifetime.
Tennessee is and will likely forever be Big 6. If this dreadful past 13 years (just one finish in the Top 20) continues for another 20 years, then they may begin to be in danger of losing "Big 6" status.... but it literally takes a generation for these things to happen.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:02 am to BHMKyle
6* national championships
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:06 am to BHMKyle
lets say Tennessee sucks for the next 50 years. Do the finishes in the 60s,70s,80s matter?
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:15 am to U_south_cack
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Here’s the argument:
No, here's the argument
LINK
Maybe if you win the next 16 match ups, win the East at least 4 more times, win at least 1 National Title, and win the SEC Title 3 times, then Maybe, MAYBE you have an argument worth listening to.
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:18 am to Vols&Shaft83
Don't make me come to Cola and beat your arse, V&S.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:19 am to Vols&Shaft83
Well, with Tennessee on their 8th coach in 6 six years, we have time.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:24 am to CNB
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Well, with Tennessee on their 8th coach in 6 six years, we have time.
Wow... is this actually true?
I'm counting 5.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:24 am to deeprig9
100% fact
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:24 am to CarolinaGamecock99
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lets say Tennessee sucks for the next 50 years. Do the finishes in the 60s,70s,80s matter?
Yes, of course they do. But obviously as more results are added to the overall resume with each passing year, those years of success become more watered down. I also think accomplishments that occurred more than 40 years in the past don't count quite as much... however, they still certainly count!
Take Minnesota. They have 4 AP National Championships. Nowadays, they have about as much cred as a program as Purdue. But wouldn't you rather at least have 4 National Championship banners in your stadium? They still count for something.
Despite its 4 National Titles, Minnesota is not a Top 25 program all-time. They are probably in the 30-35 range in terms of all-time success.
If Tennessee's struggles continue for the next 20+ years, they'll be the next "Minnesota". They'll no longer be an all-time Top 10 program. They'll have probably fallen down to #16-#20 or so. But that's worse case scenario. Odds are Tennessee will eventually turn things around.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:24 am to Vols&Shaft83
No comparison. Not even close.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:25 am to mountain D values
Yeah but we also beat you this year so I don't see your point
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:38 am to Carolina_Girl
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Don't make me come to Cola and beat your arse, V&S.
Get your monkeys under control. Beating Derek Dooley 3 times and Lyle twice (in 5 tries) has made y'all a little too big for your britches.
Besides, I'm headed to Knoxville anyway.
We can have a wrestling match when I get back tho. Nekkid of course
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:40 am to CNB
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Well, with Tennessee on their 8th coach in 6 six years, we have time.
8 coaches in 66 years isn't too bad
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:45 am to Vols&Shaft83
I have Tourette Syndrome and it's a tick
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:48 am to U_south_cack
I think the biggest difference is still tradition and recruiting. UT can have a bad year and still bring in a few 5 stars and some 4 stars. SCar can have a great year and still only have a class of 3 stars and mid tier recruits as far as rankings go.
Both teams best win this year has come against an ACC team (NC State and GT) and neither have a really good win. UT will be back because of money and tradition, SCar will always be SCar
Both teams best win this year has come against an ACC team (NC State and GT) and neither have a really good win. UT will be back because of money and tradition, SCar will always be SCar
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:59 am to FinallyHome
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Both teams best win this year has come against an ACC team
Funny aint it?
Will be like that after we beat you too.
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