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re: Great article on RPI numbers and Regional hosts

Posted on 5/16/13 at 9:17 am to
Posted by TupeloReb
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 9:17 am to
They can be really good at times.
Posted by Notherdamnhog
Huntsville, Al
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 9:22 am to
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If we would have taken care of business in Oxford we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
Yes we would because Bundy is completly obsessed with the topic of who will host a frickin Regional.

Get over it Bundy. If you're dawgs don't get to host then go out and win a Regional on the road.

If we get to host a Regional and yall don't it will be the result of a massive NCAA plot against MSU and you personally.
Posted by MedDawg
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 9:23 am to
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If you take one against USCe and one in the tourney that will put y'all at 40. I personally think if y'all take one from SC then you will have to win two at the tourney but if ou take the series 2/3 you will only have to win one, if any in Hoover.


Agree, and I think it would have been the same even if State had taken 2 of 3 in Oxford last weekend.
Posted by TaxmanMSU
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 9:25 am to
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If we get to host a Regional and yall don't it will be the result of a massive NCAA plot against MSU and you personally.




Bundy wants to be able to grope girls at bars locally and not out of state. Can't blame a creep for that
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 9:26 am to
Your entire argument is just RPI.

You ignore the fact that State has only won 4 SEC series this year. 4-5 against the SEC in series. 6-9 SEC road record. 7-9 overall road record. 3-8 record against teams ranked in top 25.
Posted by CoonassBulldog
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 9:38 am to
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Do you think it's possible for y'all to host if USCe takes the series and y'all don't get far in the SEC tourney? Not a flame, legit question


no i dont...and we shouldnt
Posted by CoonassBulldog
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 9:42 am to
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Your entire argument is just RPI.


Well, that plays a huge part in the committee's decision

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You ignore the fact that State has only won 4 SEC series this year. 4-5 against the SEC in series. 6-9 SEC road record. 7-9 overall road record. 3-8 record against teams ranked in top 25.


State is also tied with LSU for the most wins vs the West- the stronger side of the conference.

Had we played Missouri, Georgia, or Tennessee like everybody else in the West did- it would be a different story on series wins as well- thus why we have the high RPI

If we win the SC series- State is going to host
Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 9:44 am to
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That's series records for teams this year in conference play. State has absolutely no marquee series wins this season. None. Zero. Zilch.


We also don't have any WTF losses like Ark does.
Posted by Marty McFrat
Arkansas hell
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 9:45 am to
Typical Bundy mad thread
Posted by CoonassBulldog
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 9:46 am to
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We also don't have any WTF losses like Ark does.



UPig fans try to act like midweek losses dont matter- getting no-hit OOC does indeed matter and whatwill probably keep you from hosting after Auburn beats you this weekend
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 9:55 am to
Nice article but it may reflect more on the flawed nature of the RPI system in relation to over weighting ACC teams and forcing in a B1G team just to involve the B1G. ACC gets 5 in and they fail miserably and Purdue does not even host @ home but near the BTN headquarters in Chicago. I can at least see the numerous teams from TX based on markets and TX baseball in general.

#1 - #8 seeds :
UCLA #1 - made CWS from SR host
Florida #2 - made CWS from SR host
Florida State #3 - made CWS from SR host
Baylor #4 - bounced CWS from SR host by Arkansas
North Carolina #5 - bounced 2-2 from own region by St. John's
Oregon #6 - bounced CWS from SR host by Kent State
LSU #7 - bounced CWS from SR host by Stony Brook
Purdue #8 (in Gary, IN) - bounced 1-2 from own region by Kent State

#9 - #16 seeds :
Virginia #9 - bounced 1-2 from own region by Oklahoma
North Carolina State #10 - bounced CWS from SR host by Florida
South Carolina #11 - made CWS from SR host
Miami (FL) #12 - bounced 0-2 from own region by Stony Brook
Texas A&M #13 - bounced 1-2 from own region by TCU
Arizona #14 - made CWS from SR host
Stanford #15 - bounced from CWS from SR hosted by FSU
Rice #18 - bounced 1-2 from own region by Arkansas

Viewed another way
(5) ACC = #3 FSU, #5 UNC, #9 UVA, #10 NCST, and #12 Miami
(4) PAC = #1 UCLA, #6 Oregon, #14 Arizona, and #15 Stanford
(3) SEC = #2 Florida, #7 LSU, and #11 USC
(3) TX = #4 Baylor, #13 TAMU, and #18 Rice
(1) B1G = #8 Purdue
Posted by 17theBears
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 9:58 am to
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3-8 record against teams ranked in top 25.


Coincidentally enough, it looks very similar to your record vs teams with +150 RPIs.
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 10:02 am to
So your glimmer of hope is a team that hasn't lost an SEC road series this year and is 10-2 on the road in conference play loses a series to Auburn. Actually, you're going on record here and predicting Arkansas will lose the series.

I see what I'm dealing with now
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 10:05 am to
14-2 =/= 3-8

Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 10:59 am to
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Interesting that the ACC has 6 teams in the top 17. That's a pretty strong league, comparable to the SEC. Who's leading the conference race?


Meh, they get that every year. They are always propped-up by the RPI which feeds off of their internal games against one another mostly by teams that are overrated.
Posted by tigerfan0082
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 11:11 am to
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6-9 SEC road record. 7-9 overall road record.


doesn't this explain why he wants to host?
Posted by CayceCock13
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 11:28 am to
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This post was edited on 5/16/13 at 11:29 am
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 1:12 pm to
Out of conference record

Mississippi State 24-2 Central Arkansas (2)

Arkansas 17-8 with losses to Western Illinois, Pacific, Gonzaga, Arizona State (2), New Mexico, Nebraska (2)
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 1:13 pm to
One of the college baseball talking heads on 104.5 @ noon said that he feels Kansas St. will get a host spot because they'll win the Big 12 and there will be no host spots in Texas this yr. Noted that their RPI is in the 40's but still feels a major conference champ in a part of the country otherwise being ignored will be given a host spot.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 1:34 pm to
OP ... subject line is misleading. There is nothing "Great" about the "article." It is somewhat informative, even encouraging I suppose if you are a MSU fan - but for most of us there is absolutely nothing "Great" about the piece. It's a blog post spouting historical numbers and possibly some trends of some sort at best.

Looking it over, I'm not even completely sure it is entirely accurate. It is, and I understand this, what MSU fans want to read and hear.
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